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Rev_O

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CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« on: April 28, 2004, 06:55:51 AM »
remember that jerk. everyone had a problem with him on here in the past. BEWARE!!!!
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Rev_O

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Re: CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2004, 10:04:34 PM »
you offered the $15, i never said it was great.

a "little misleading"???

get real, and go to school, learn to tell the truth

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Re: CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2004, 10:12:10 PM »
here's the thing, my brother is over and he is a lawyer... regardless if this is a public internet site and there are no contracts involved with deals, you are still bound by oral contract and there is proof on here.  crazy11, you lied about who you were, you sent a money order in someones elses name and didn't sign it, you told me you were jimbo.  you can actually be prosicuted for things like this.  i am just an innocent bystander, but crazy you have dug yourself a 50 foot hole and will never get out of it, as for kleetus or anyone associated with "matt"  should cut all ties to him and do nothing for him again, regardless if you were trying to help him, yes you are now involved and he is ruining your name, and to fight back is not worth it.  "matt" whoever you are, your best bet would be to leave and never come back, before someone does something about it and i mean that in a legal way.  

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Re: CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2004, 10:14:42 PM »
someone should sue his mother....
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Re: CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2004, 10:18:37 PM »
yeah, he sent the MO, but failed to sign it, so it's worthless to me

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Re: CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2004, 11:19:16 PM »
Well everyone just keep an eye out now because he is just going to change his username again and rip someone else off.  There is only one place in the future for this scumbag and that is behind bars with guys waiting for him to drop the soap....  I have no sympathy for loosers like this.  I hope someone from this site will step up for once and make sure that he does not come back.
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Re: CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2004, 11:46:44 PM »
I hope that crazy11 reads what lilmike2782 and tenpin saying right now. If I recall is that the one from Michigan? Crazy11 what you did was wrong by commiting fruad beside that lying as well. I believe in honesty and good customer relationship.  Which you don't have any of these.Now the choice is your along either the easy way or hard way perhaps behind bars. Because that where you may end up if this goes any farther by taking you to court. Tell the truth if you know how or maybe you don't what the truth is? Beside that I don"t like people like you doing what you did. Good job for you -politics.
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Re: CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2004, 11:52:54 PM »
Matt,

I sent you a NIB 15lb Brunswick Inferno, but you did NOT ship the NIB 15lb AZO Red Fire as agreed.  You basically stole ($120 ball + $18 shipping) = $138 from me.  It is time to make good on your agreement.  Pay up!  

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Re: CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2004, 12:54:58 AM »
I see Matt Wager aka Matt Wagner is back. Long live the legend of xxxpipologyxxx.

Matt, you have rubbed many people on here the wrong way. If you have a disagreement with someone currently, take care of it to the best of your ability. In order to make people think you are not a thief is to do well by your word. As of right now, most of the people here have every reason to believe that you are a thief. Take care of the hole you have dug yourself into.

Shaggy got ripped off back when I did. You still have not done right by him. It is time to step up and be a man. Take care of the situation you have yourself in.
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Re: CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2004, 01:27:29 AM »
Now I did get a money order from him.

With a retyrb address of Kyle ?Klettner.  I forget.

Not signed either!  I thought it would be a problem but my bank took it!

REgards,

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Re: CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2004, 02:05:32 AM »
I don't know about anyone else but it sounds like this kid needs a good azz kicking.  If benefit of doubt doesn't work break and arm usually does.
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Re: CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2004, 10:22:59 AM »
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i didnt RIP ANYONE OFF ON CRAZY11


You don't change a reputation just by changing usernames.  In fact, changing names without significantly changing day-to-day practices is what we in the criminal justice field call a con artist.  And since I have close to 20 years in that field and look at criminal histories on a daily basis, I would say I have a pretty good feel for that profile...

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i had 4 perfect deals the crunch was a little messed up we agreed 15 dollars and it would be great so i sent him 15 and now im sending him 10 more. to me thats not ripping anyone off!!!


Having to send money after a deal to try and make things even is not what I or most would call "great."  At best, it would be called an agreement to do the right thing, or what most call "personal ethics."  

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im done with this u can gurantee that i will never be on this site again im pretty much done with bowling.


Probably never on this site with the current screen name...however, much like Plamor and others who routinely left and came back with new names, I have no doubt that you will return, just as you have with other names in the past.
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Re: CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2004, 01:23:35 PM »
You tried to "rip-off" people with that nonsense of a camera deal, as Crazy11, until I exposed it...TWICE!

It's a shame that you have been "fortunate so far" not to have to pay for your ruses.
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Re: CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2004, 01:41:18 PM »
I was involved in this a while back when EXCALIBER was being cheated. I do have a problem with him {Matt or what ever name he will use or be using} and this happening not once but two and three times, trying to cheat some one.

 The biggest problem I have, is another ballreview member helping him by letting him use his address and shipping things for him, AFTER what Matt pulled!!!!

 Perhaps this again needs to be sent to his parents, or like last time e- mailed to his father.








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TyLytle

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Re: CRAZY11 is Matt Wagar
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2004, 01:53:47 PM »
I seem to remember someone having his phone number.
I thought they had talked to him mother. Maybe she needs to be called again.


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