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Title: mutant man
Post by: newmanadam on March 14, 2004, 12:26:21 AM
well i traded mutant man that fear factor that he has up for sale or trade.  i sent him out the ball last monday and he said he would send out the balls he trade too.  well he had some trouble getting to the post office.  thats cool i can understand.  ive had troubles getting a ball out because of family reasons before.  well its sunday here the balls should be here any time.  well i just seen that he is trying to get rid of the ball already.  this worries me a little because if he trades it off and i never get my balls he owes me then he can say he never recieved mine.  i just wanted some feedback on if you know him and i would just ask that people hold of on the dealing with him on this ball untill i recieve my balls he owes me.  i will update if i recieve balls.  actually i will update every day till i get something.  thank you for your time.

adam newman
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: JOE FALCO on March 14, 2004, 03:36:43 PM
What is the ball you sent him? You're indicating that you decided a TRADE with him .. you sent out your ball and he RECEIVED it already .. is trying to deal with that ball and the balls you were expecting in TRADE have NOT YET been received! That doesn't sound TOO GOOD! When did he RECEIVE your ball? Why would he being DEALING for it so quickly? I can understand your concern! Please state what the ball was that you sent HIM!
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: newmanadam on March 14, 2004, 03:47:41 PM
he recieved it on thursday.  he said he sent my balls out on wednesday usps and he didnt get a tracking number.  its the fear factor that he has for sale or trade.
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: mutant man on March 14, 2004, 04:03:09 PM
I recieved the ball friday.
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: mutant man on March 14, 2004, 04:18:57 PM
Joe..and to all others concerened.  If you read my post i stated just looking to see if i get any good offers.  Im not just trying to get rid of it...the reason im not that interested is because the pin i was told was on the ball was incorrect...which isnt a big deal im not going to cry over spilled milk, so i was just seeing what kind of offers i could get.
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: HamPster on March 14, 2004, 05:54:57 PM
There have been a ton of bad dealings recently, but I say give this guy a shot.  He hasn't run off, or changed names, and he's given a pretty valid reason for the delay.  UPS doesn't deliver on Sundays, D-U-H.  Has anyone ever reported a bad dealing with this guy before?  Give it another couple days before you go crazy.  

I'm in the middle of a deal with PerfectStorm that's been going on for probably over a month now.  I sent him a Super Charge and a Time Zone, both of which I'm pretty sure have been traded away already (I'm positive the Time Zone has, lol, I sent it straight to the guy he traded it to), and I have yet to receive anything, BUT, that's what we agreed on.  I made a request, and he's been looking for it.  No one has reported a bad dealing with him, so I'm not worried in the LEAST.  The communication has been excellent, and unless it's 2010 before I get a ball, I'm not gonna say another word.  I held up my end, I have the utmost confidence he's holding up his.  

My point is, give the guy a couple more days.  Again, UPS doesn't deliver on Sundays, so you shouldn't have even posted anything until tomorrow.  Also, he stated that you gave him an incorrect pin, which means he could have made a big post on here about you trying to scam him or something.  The guy's being upfront and cool about it, chill.
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: newmanadam on March 14, 2004, 06:05:54 PM
for one thing hamsterman i didnt give him an incorect pin.  i told him what the box that the ball came in said the pin was, and another thing he sent this usps.  if i would just have a tracking number this woudl have never happend.  what scared me a lil was that i havenet recevied the balls owed to me and he is already trying to sell the ball i traded him.  so ham i dont think i over reacted.  ive seen alot of scams from people on this forum and i just wanted some info.  if you read i just asked that no one make a finalized deal with him till i post that i recieved the balls he owed me.  thanks for you time
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: HamPster on March 14, 2004, 07:00:09 PM
Ok, sending it by USPS was DUMB.  UPS or Fedex should be mandatory, and tracking numbers should be given quickly.  I still think you should have waited a few more days though, being that however it was shipped, it wouldn't have gotten to you today in any case.  I have to give mutant man credit for sticking around, that earns him some respect, but USPS?  Honestly, snail mail's a bad idea for anything more than letters.  UPS has a SERIOUS reputation for getting stuff to you as quickly as possible in great shape, you (mutant man) shouldn't squabble over a few bucks.  What pin length was on the box, and what was the actual pin of the ball?  Doug Sterner sent me a ball in a trade, and he actually crossed out the pin that was on the box and wrote down the actual EXACT pin length before he shipped it to me.
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: newmanadam on March 14, 2004, 08:41:03 PM
the pin was a misunderstanding mutant man didnt lie about that.
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: JOE FALCO on March 14, 2004, 10:45:20 PM
I'm not condemning anyone .. or for that matter .. phrasing anyone. But HAM your deal was all AGREED UPON .. you are waiting because it was AGREED UPON .. that doesn't apply here.

From what I hear MM has done deals before .. did he use USPS then also? How could any buyer be happy with that? Then NM sends his ball to get there FAST .. then sees it being RESOLD and hasn't seen anything from the trade on his ball .. don't you think he should be concerned? What does NM do if the ball is sold and he still has nothing?

I don't think NM did WRONG .. in fact I probable would have reacted the SAME WAY! Someone tells me they had problems and couldn't get the balls to delivery, yet he had time to construct deals on the received ball?  

I take NO EXCEPTION to the action taking by NM who stood up to his end of the DEAL! I wouldn't want to see my ball sold by the guy I'm dealing with and still NOT have the exchange ball in my HANDS!
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: HamPster on March 15, 2004, 01:04:31 AM
I agree Joe, but the only thing is that in any case, if mutant man sent the ball on Wednesday, there is no way possible the ball he shipped could have reached newmanadam before Monday or Tuesday, so posting that he hasn't received the ball seems a little like jumping the gun.  Being that the pin was a misunderstanding, can you see why mutant man posted it for sale or trade?  He seemed a little reluctant about it too.  I know a good scammer would know all the tricks, but I still think it's too early to be making assumptions and giving the guy a bad rep.  Newmanadam has been fairly cordial about it though, and I think his concerns are partially founded.  I also think he has a right to want to know more about the guy, but he might have wanted to check his rep BEFORE making the deal.  I also still think mutant man should have sent UPS, BUT I believe that newmanadam will receive the package soon and everything will be just peachy.  Speaking of peachy, where has pchee been?
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The weekly signature series, by Hamster, presenting a mini-series of quotes from Shrek!

"Oh I'll find those stairs, I whip they butt too.  They won't know which way they going.  Give me a step right here and now, I'll step all over it, kick it to the curb.  I am the stair masta, I've masta'd the stairs."
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: JOE FALCO on March 15, 2004, 08:09:57 AM
Not too long ago I read where PCHEE teamed up with another from BR and won FIRST PLACE in a tournament. It seems he's still in the bowling game .. I try to follow most of the posts here .. but I haven't seen anything from him. I do sort of miss his CRAZY STORIES .. always came up with something that put a smile on your face and a desire to comment on .. I guess he doesn't have the time any more .. always hoped that he realizes that he's MISSED!

NOTE: My apologies to NM for straying from his post!
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Edited on 3/15/2004 9:05 AM
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: TOON on March 16, 2004, 01:15:54 PM
Mutant Man sold me a pair of shoes a while back.  He seems like a good dude.  Give him a bit more time.  I don't remember if he sent my shoes by UPS or USPS, but not everyone has a UPS shipper close to them.  I do agree that stuff should be sent UPS and a tracking number should be sent as quickly as possible, if possible.  To me, he does not seem that upset about the wrong pin distance, but it was a bit irresponsible of the seller not to measure it before a deal was made.  Or maybe the seller was doing whatever it took to get rid of it or get what MM had.  Just my thoughts....
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: JOE FALCO on March 16, 2004, 03:36:28 PM
NEWMANADAN hasn't come back on this topic and indicated that the ball(s) have been delivered and today is TUESDAY!

My only comment on this is related to the PIN .. from what I recall reading on this (and I know none of the individuals involved) but I thought I read that NEWMAN gave the box that he received the ball in and had quoted the PIN placement as it was on THAT BOX. Again how anyone can take exception to that is BEYOND ME!

I'd like to know if MUTANT MAN ever got the balls to NEW MAN or are they STILL IN TRANSIT?
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: mutant man on March 16, 2004, 03:47:50 PM
Joe, as far as the pin goes, newman did quote me the wrong pin. Box said 2.5-3 (the pin is just a hare over 2.5) and the box said 3-4, and newman did admit he quoted the wrong pin, so as you can imagine a drilling that i wanted to have with a 3-4 inch pin can't be done on a 2.5 inch pin.  As for the balls not sure if they are there yet (have not talked to newman today) but they will be if not already.
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: JOE FALCO on March 16, 2004, 03:58:21 PM
MM .. I'm glad everything got cleared up (I think) .. confused about the pin you say:
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 Box said 2.5-3 (the pin is just a hare over 2.5) and the box said 3-4, and newman did admit he quoted the wrong pin,
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I'm not sure what the BOX INDICATED form your note .. but it doesn't matter .. glad it's all settled .. why isn't NEWMANADAN telling us he's happy? I'm going to drop him and email!
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: mutant man on March 16, 2004, 04:00:48 PM
Opps sorry about that i mean box said 3-4 inch pin and newman told me 2.5-3 inch pin...pin was too short.
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: newmanadam on March 16, 2004, 04:41:51 PM
no balls recieved on tuesday.
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: JOE FALCO on March 16, 2004, 07:23:45 PM
Can we now take the emphasis off PIN and start talking about where the traded balls are! When were they sent? What, from past experience, is the estimated delivery date? Are we sure the correct address was used? Was there any understanding on method of shipping? Is it wrong for NEWMANADAN to ask MUTANT MAN to hold on to his ball until he receives his side of the Deal?
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: mutant man on March 16, 2004, 07:56:07 PM
Joe, not sure what your great interst is in me or whatso...but he knew they were going to be sent usps...he asked me and i told him most likely usps...im assuming it will take about 6-7 days...cuz ups is usually 4-5 days from what i know.
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: mutant man on March 16, 2004, 07:57:48 PM
Also i do believe the pin is important because now i have a ball i can not do what i wanted to it...so thats kind of a big deal, i bet you would not like to recieve a ball that the specs were misquoted on.
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: mutant man on March 16, 2004, 08:02:14 PM
Oh and just to add one note, if i was really going to cheat someone in a deal why would i still be here backing myself up, why would i still be on the board.  I assure newman he will recieve the balls.
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: JOE FALCO on March 16, 2004, 08:11:53 PM
I think I would seriously think of making the exchange and get back to where you started. I have no INTEREST in the situation. Just that this all started with a request for you not to SELL the ball until the other guy received his end of the deal! There was a commotion because that was done .. I'm only following up to see if it was justified! There were some that had written it was NOT JUSTIFIED .. at this point .. I'm not sure!
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: mutant man on March 16, 2004, 08:22:22 PM
I wish i wouldnt have traded now because the balls specs will just not work for me.  Newman said he has not recieved the balls yet, but im sure he will, probably tomorrow.
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: stormerjip on March 16, 2004, 08:24:19 PM
hey Joe I could be wrong but i don't believe he said anything about requesting that MM to hold the ball until he received his
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: JOE FALCO on March 16, 2004, 08:41:23 PM
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well i traded mutant man that fear factor that he has up for sale or trade.  i sent him out the ball last monday and he said he would send out the balls he trade too.  well he had some trouble getting to the post office.  thats cool i can understand.  ive had troubles getting a ball out because of family reasons before.  well its sunday here the balls should be here any time.  well i just seen that he is trying to get rid of the ball already.  this worries me a little because if he trades it off and i never get my balls he owes me then he can say he never recieved mine.  i just wanted some feedback on if you know him and i would just ask that people hold of on the dealing with him on this ball untill i recieve my balls he owes me.  i will update if i recieve balls.  actually i will update every day till i get something.  thank you for your time.

adam newman
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I LIKE TO GO BOWLING WITH MY BEST FRIEND BERT, WITH MY BOWLING BALL AND MY BOWLING SHIRT, BOWLING IS MY KINDA GAME.


Guess I made an inperpretaion .. is that what this says??
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: freedomrules3 on March 16, 2004, 08:58:31 PM
I don't get it joe, why ARE you so concerned about this??? I think mutantman wouldn't be here posting if he didn't send the balls out. is this a matter of "Mind Your Own Business"? could be .Personally I think mutantman should be unhappy about the Little misunderstanding about the pin placement, pin placement makes a difference. I'm sure both of these people are on the up and up. Just  can't figure out why you are so concerned with other people's business, but then again that is half the problem with the people today , cant mind their own business, not like the old days. sorry if i offended anyone but just my 2 cents
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: stormerjip on March 16, 2004, 09:06:07 PM
i still don't see it joe the way i see it t says he was worried because he had it up for trade but never said that he didn't want him to not trade jut thought that would keep him from getting his
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: tsupra on March 16, 2004, 09:20:36 PM
I recently sold him a Killer Instict and I recieved the money right away, no problems. I sent the ball out right to him and he received it and sent me an email right away. I would deal with him anytime.
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: newmanadam on March 16, 2004, 09:30:08 PM
actually joe is right if you reed my forum id i ask people to hold of dealing with him untill i recieve my balls.
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: JOE FALCO on March 17, 2004, 09:04:06 AM
MIND YOU OWN BUSINESS .. that's a GOOD COMMENT! Really understand your position! Guess I just don't like to see ANYONE get the SHORT END of the stick! I GUESS it's one of those things of seeing BOTH ENDS!

I know NONE of the people involved but I do read. Here we had someone who HAD a ball that he agreed to TRADE. Did his thing of sending the ball out (in the fastest/cheapest way) and sits NOW without his ball and without the ball he traded for. Perhaps people don't feel for that situation .. until it happens to them. I read what is happening and it GETS TO ME!

Is this an EVERY DAY occurrence that people say .. MIND YOU OWN BUSINESS! I'm appalled by it! Is this what's acceptable in TRADING .. it would never be acceptable to ME! I leave all of you to your own conscious ..

I have great feelings for my fellow men .. I hope you all have better relations then the guy who started this particular forum. I wish him luck and hope he DOESN'T get SCREWED UP like this on future deals. For my part I hope he will note my name and let me know when he FINALLY (if ever) receives the balls! Thanks for listening to my thoughts!
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: mutant man on March 17, 2004, 03:02:43 PM
Joe, i can understand you do not like to be screwed and dont like others to be screwed, but i am in now way screwing anyone.  I have been nothing but considerate about the situation (considering i got a ball with the wrong specs) and im on here every day, so obviously im not just ripping newman off, yes the balls are a couple days late, but he is recieving them.  So im sure he will let you know how it turned out, there is not a need to make a big deal of this everyday.  Thanks for those of you who see that im an honest guy and not ripping anyone off.
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: newmanadam on March 17, 2004, 04:25:08 PM
i didnt recieve the balls today. i will check again tomorrow.
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: newmanadam on March 18, 2004, 05:16:21 PM
i did recieve my balls today.  and they were in ok condition.  they are both second drills which is no problem because they were for my brother and the span is the same, but i didnt know that and the hex has a crack by the finger.  but other wise i am satisfied those things are not big deal.  and i want to thank mutant man for not screwing me over and i would deal with mutant man again.
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: mutant man on March 18, 2004, 05:27:15 PM
Hey newman.  The crack you say is in the ball, i wasn't aware of that, i do not believe there was one before shipping.  As for condition, i thought hextreme was in almost mint condition besides the thumb being moved a bit (can only see about 1/4 of plug), but im glade you are satisfyied.  I assured you and eveyone eles im an honest and fair guy glade you see that also.  Thanks
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: newmanadam on March 18, 2004, 05:47:29 PM
the hextreme is in good condition.  i am very satisified with that ball. but what is up with the thumb on the quantum lol its messed up.
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: mutant man on March 18, 2004, 05:51:15 PM
Nothing is messed up about it...the plug is clear because it was a pwba ball, it was pwba approved.
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: newmanadam on March 18, 2004, 05:56:34 PM
no its a really weird hole.  im not mad about it or anything because i have to plug it anyway because your span is about and inch to short.  i was saying it as a joke.  the hole is like not circular.  its weird shaped
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Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: mutant man on March 18, 2004, 05:59:41 PM
hmm, not sure, just how my thumb is i guess, but glade you are satisfied.  
-Denny
Title: Re: mutant man
Post by: JOE FALCO on March 18, 2004, 06:49:45 PM
Looks like everybody got what they were looking for .. glad everything ended on the GOOD SIDE!
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