For a new company, Circle has done really well with it's first set of balls. I took a MegaIdol with a 4" pin and placed the pin 2 1/2" from the PAP and above the line from the PAP to the finger holes. Put an extra hole 6 3/4" from the center of the grip. This ball rolls very smoothly, but still makes a very strong move on the back end. Great drilling when you need a good reaction in the midlane. Out of the box, the ball comes shiny and didn't quite roll soon enough for the condition (bowling a league using the National Patterns with 43' of oil in this particular pattern), so I sanded it down with 220 grit to take off the factory shine, and then sanded it back up to 800 grit. Now it reacts perfectly for the pattern. So, it rolls good sanded for heavy oil, and also rolls well out of the box with the shine, which would be good for regular league conditions. As I said at the top, another great ball. I can't wait for their next one!