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Equipment Boards => Columbia 300 => Topic started by: BBR-Bill on July 22, 2003, 04:24:03 AM

Title: 2 New Columbia Balls
Post by: BBR-Bill on July 22, 2003, 04:24:03 AM: I just got word today there will be another Spirit II - Burgandy and a new Ti Messenger.
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Title: Re: 2 New Columbia Balls
Post by: TWOHAND834 on July 24, 2003, 04:42:40 PM: Thank you for the info Bill. Have not heard anything about them as of yet. What are the differences from the old ones?
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Title: Re: 2 New Columbia Balls
Post by: RandyO on July 24, 2003, 06:18:35 PM: I asked Columbia in an email. All I know now is that the coverstock on the Spirit II will not be the same as on the original Spirit
Too bad. That was a nice ball.
Title: Re: 2 New Columbia Balls
Post by: BBR-Bill on July 24, 2003, 06:27:46 PM: I was told by the Columbia Sales Rep that the Spirit coverstock was the leftover mixture of all the columbia coverstocks.
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Title: Re: 2 New Columbia Balls
Post by: LuckyLefty on July 24, 2003, 06:35:31 PM: See my review of Spirit re: different coverstocks!

Mystery meat!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS love that core!
Title: Re: 2 New Columbia Balls
Post by: RandyO on July 24, 2003, 07:11:25 PM: BBR-Bill:
Not the initial batch. It was adverstised as being a special coverstock in conjunction with BASF. It was 'special' - a great ball. When the initial batch sold so well they capitalized on the name and put out a mish-mash of crapola coverstocks with the Spirit label. That was the mix-n-match that you are refering to. There is nothing special about either the blue or black Spirits that didn't have the swirling in the coverstock. I had a couple of "Good" 16# balls, and they were awesome balls, effective on everything but EXTREME wet or EXTREME dry. I gave them away, and the new owners love them. I have a 15# "Good" Spirit that is a fantastic go-long and come back hard monster. I don't know what the additive was that made it different, but it was different, and effective.
Title: Re: 2 New Columbia Balls
Post by: charlest on July 24, 2003, 07:32:44 PM: Randy-O,

Any idea of the dates of manufacture of the good/blue vs the bad/black?
I have one and I wonder about drilling it now ...
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Title: Re: 2 New Columbia Balls
Post by: RandyO on July 24, 2003, 07:51:21 PM: More like the Good Black and the Bad Blue. There is only one good Spirit coverstock (and I've thrown all versions). The Black with swirls. I took a photo of one and posted on my Wicked BRT review:

http://www.pipeline.com/~randyo/spiritcover1.jpg

If your coverstock is similar to this photo then keep it and drill it (or sell it to me if it's 15#). If it is either a plain blue or plain black then it is just another run of the mill reactive ball.
Title: Re: 2 New Columbia Balls
Post by: charlest on July 24, 2003, 08:23:02 PM: thanks, Randy.
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Title: Re: 2 New Columbia Balls
Post by: LuckyLefty on July 24, 2003, 08:53:21 PM: Mystery meat, mystery ingrediants.

That's right 16 pound black with swirls ripping our tough house to shreds.

Blue duds!

REgards,

Luckylefty
Title: Re: 2 New Columbia Balls
Post by: The great one on July 24, 2003, 09:22:31 PM: With the differences in ball reaction that differ so much as to be labed "good" and "bad" sounds like a good plan to sell alot of the spirt 2s. People wont know which are the "good" or the "bad" until a number are sold. After the first, do you think people will wait for a lot of these to be sold and then go looking for the "good" ones?
Title: Re: 2 New Columbia Balls
Post by: Jesse James on July 25, 2003, 04:34:08 PM: I won't go so far as to say all blue ones are duds. I have two; a 16# and a 15#.
The 16#er definitely hits harder than the 15#er, but what I found was that the 15#er goes longer, buts hits harder if you rev it a little. It seems to need coaxing. Also, if the backends are clean.....lookout.....both these balls swell up like the INcredible Hulk, and come back from anywhere! With you guys description of the black-swirrly ones, I can't imagine what kind of hit they must have!