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BuddiesProShopcom - Tim

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First chance to throw Arch Rival
« on: June 20, 2008, 07:24:49 PM »
Got a chance to throw the Arch Rival for the first time tonight.  It is drilled with the pin below my fingers and 4 5/8" from my PAP, and the cg in a 45 degree position.  

My first impression is that I am very excited to throw this ball more and more.  I am making a bold claim by saying there is NO BALL ON THE MARKET LIKE THIS.  The Arch Rival offers a surprisingly clean path through the heads and makes an unprecedented move on the backend.  With the first line of balls from the "new" Columbia released having more of a rolly, arcing characteristic, it sure looks like the new releases will offer much more profound moves on the backends.  I can't imagine the Columbia brand going anywhere else but to the top.  

Comparing it to the other balls in the line, The Arch was about 7 boards stronger than the Rival, about 5 boards stronger than my favorite Momentum, and actually surprisingly comparable to my Resurgence in overall hook, but the Resurgence is much smoother.

If this ball is even a faint sign of things to come, everyone better start saving money for the Momentum Swing.

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thedjs

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Re: First chance to throw Arch Rival
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2008, 04:17:01 PM »

If this ball is close to the Resurgence, would you need both balls?

mmcfarland300

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Re: First chance to throw Arch Rival
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2008, 04:28:29 PM »
From what I've seen there is a good distance from the Arch to the Resurgence.

gokenong

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Re: First chance to throw Arch Rival
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2008, 07:46:59 PM »
can the archrival be used on heavy oiled lanes?

Mayhem

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Re: First chance to throw Arch Rival
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2008, 09:33:58 AM »
I finally picked mine up last night and used in my league last night and shot 818 with it. I was very impressed with it. Had games of 258 276 284. I grabbed a few shots in 2nd and 3rd games. I was really pissed at myself but I was still happy with the night. I didnt have my Rival with me to compare last night to see the difference.

mmcfarland300

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Re: First chance to throw Arch Rival
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2008, 11:28:44 AM »
Mayhem,  would you say it is stronger than the resurgence or weaker.

Mayhem

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Re: First chance to throw Arch Rival
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2008, 11:47:18 AM »
I havent drilled a Resurgence so I really cant compare the two.

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Re: First chance to throw Arch Rival
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2008, 12:29:49 PM »
Mayhem, nice shooting!
I'd hate to go against you lately, you've been on fire.

Luckily I'm your doubles partner :-)


Mayhem

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Re: First chance to throw Arch Rival
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2008, 12:54:22 PM »
rofl

BuddiesProShopcom - Tim

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Re: First chance to throw Arch Rival
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2008, 07:43:49 PM »
Overall hook is similar, but Resurgence picks up a little sooner, allowing it to handle more oil.  The Arch Rival pushes a bunch further and turns the corner much, much harder.
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Re: First chance to throw Arch Rival
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2008, 08:01:49 PM »
hey Tim! just got my Arch Rival, going to have it drilled later tonight.. Any suggestion as to the recommended layout for this ball?? My PAP is 4 across and 5/8 up.. tnx!

BuddiesProShopcom - Tim

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Re: First chance to throw Arch Rival
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2008, 01:50:02 AM »
What is your rev rate, style, etc?
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