As an update to my original thread; I think this is what I am wanting and not sure Columbia has what I want which sucks as I really like the way their stuff rolls for me.  I am wanting something that is weaker than my Violent and Disorder but yet not have a flippy reaction on the backend.  My Violent is a skid/strong arc (not flippy) for if I have to get deeper as if I try to square up; I still tend to leave solid 9s.  The Disorder I have been fighting to get a reaction I like.  If I square up the cover is too strong and if I get deeper the core is too weak (lots of 10s).  I would like something that I can square up and play right in or near the track without the ball rolling too quickly or reacting too strongly at the breakpoint.  I have a Takedown drilled pin below the fingers but even a little too strong for squaring up.   

The Freezes seem too flippy but the gap between the Freezes and Scouts seem huge.  Really wish there was a ball in the lower end that was a higher RG but a diff in the .030 range instead of .05 (think Eruption Pro but lower end).  Kind of looking at the Gamebreaker 2 but worried the cover will be too strong to move right and square up.  For some reason I cannot bring myself to drill a Storm ball.  It is what it is.  Also may have thought about the Blur Solid but not sure how close it will be to my Violent and Disorder with that cover. 

Since my team won the first third; I would like to try a different direction for the second third and see how it goes.  I am thinking weaker overall and still not flippy.  I have a 300C Solid but have the pin at 2 inches from my PAP but with the high flare potential; it still flares a lot even with that pin placement.  If I dull the cover; it leaves flat 10s and if I add polish, the ball doesnt really have enough on the back with the oil volume.  SO.......looking for a ball between my 300C and Violent Eruption.

Any "flippy" ball can likely be easily solved with surface if drilled, or nib with layout and surface.

Yeah.  True.  But it can be tough when one is rev dominate.  My Violent was pretty flippy OOB but took the polish off and left more of a sheen on it.  Now it is more of a hard arc and more predictable.  Just would like something I can move right start the night more 12ish at the arrows instead of 15-17.  Know what I mean?

Too bad you don't like Storm stuff.

The UpRoar is so smooth.  My partners and I were just noting that today.

It is not skid snap but push slurve but it wants to curve and hit.


Regards,

Luckylefty

I would say that the blur solid would be  the ball to go with. In all the vids I have watched it never came off the pattern sideways. Very nice smooth arc. It will be a nice step down from your violent and disruption even with its cover because the core is not as strong. Even the hybrid would be a good choice if your looking for even more push.

I have the 300C with the pin at 2 inches from PAP, cg near center of grip, and box finish.  Ball was great when I first got it.  However, the center I bowl my leagues at added volume from track to track so the middle is a little tighter now and plays a tad more wet/dry.  If I square up with the 300, it can be too early since it still flares a ton and if I move inside in the puddle it doesnt corner enough.  I have tried to add a little surface but it then becomes a dud on the backend.  Still playing with the surface on that ball.  The issue with the 300 is the flare.  I believe if the core was a little weaker I could get closer to the friction and still get some push.  But the cores in the 300 (.055), Cyclone (.047), and Freezes ).047) have diffs higher than I would like.  So even a weaker layout is still going to flare quite a bit.  The Blur Solid is .041 so that could be a possibility.  Too bad Columbia couldnt tweak the Resurgence core to put into a weaker cover with the diff at .035.

What color is your Track 300c?

The Ringer are strong, especially the Solid. You are putting too much into the core numbers. I will show you why in a few when I get to my desktop.

Cover and surface are just as important.

go to the 1:50 mark of the video and watch the Strike King then the comparison with the Karma blue/green.  Diff .028 vs .040  SK has a higher RG as well. The twoo balls on the Rico layout are identical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz5Pe6_PqiE&list=UU3VftStl4sWcuACk5kkKbDw