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cartman33

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big shot????
« on: June 12, 2007, 09:07:21 AM »
is the big shot a solid or a pearl??? thinking about trying one....
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ElectricLeftSlider

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Re: big shot????
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2007, 09:50:04 PM »
It's solid reactive. And great for playing heavy oil condition.
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charlest

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Re: big shot????
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2007, 10:30:04 PM »
I thought it was a solid/pearl resin combo:
http://www.columbia300.com/gear/balls.cfm?bid=209http://www.columbia300.com/gear/balls.cfm?bid=209
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ElectricLeftSlider

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Re: big shot????
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2007, 02:30:46 AM »
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I thought it was a solid/pearl resin combo:
http://www.columbia300.com/gear/balls.cfm?bid=209http://www.columbia300.com/gear/balls.cfm?bid=209
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Hey charlest, if you look at the ball specifications under coverstock benefit, it does say reactive blend. So I'm assume it's solid reactive. Just my thinking..
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cartman33

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Re: big shot????
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2007, 05:17:33 AM »
it would make it so much easier if the manufacturer would tell us what cover it is from the beginning, wouldn't it?!
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charlest

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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2007, 06:01:54 AM »
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it would make it so much easier if the manufacturer would tell us what cover it is from the beginning, wouldn't it?!
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Not really. What do you need made easier? (real question).
While I agree I'd like to know, it makes little real difference. After all is said and done, you buy a ball reaction, not a ball, not a coverstock nor a core. The manufacturer uses a particular cover and core combination; then they apply a finish to get the ball reaction they are after for their arsenal of balls to sell ...
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charlest

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Re: big shot????
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2007, 06:03:07 AM »
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I thought it was a solid/pearl resin combo:
http://www.columbia300.com/gear/balls.cfm?bid=209http://www.columbia300.com/gear/balls.cfm?bid=209
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Hey charlest, if you look at the ball specifications under coverstock benefit, it does say reactive blend. So I'm assume it's solid reactive. Just my thinking..


BUT When I see the word "blend", I think solid + pearl combination. If it were solid, I believe they wouldn't use the word "blend".
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TeddyBowlerJapan

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Re: big shot????
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2007, 11:56:55 AM »
Chemists have to say something now :-).

(Poly)urethane is generally synthesized from two kind of special chemical species.  They are diisocyanate and diol.  There are many kinds of diisocyanates and diols.  Combination of diisocyanate and diol govern the performance of polyurethane.  You all may imagine that more than one kind of diisocyanates and/or diols can be used to form a polyurethane of disired performance.  So urethane chemists sometimes "blend" diisocyanates and/or diols to produce a new polyurethane.

FYI, urethane chemistry:
http://chem.chem.rochester.edu/~chem424/ureth.htm

Hope this helps.
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cficare068

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Re: big shot????
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2007, 05:46:52 PM »
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Chemists have to say something now :-).

(Poly)urethane is generally synthesized from two kind of special chemical species.  They are diisocyanate and diol.  There are many kinds of diisocyanates and diols.  Combination of diisocyanate and diol govern the performance of polyurethane.  You all may imagine that more than one kind of diisocyanates and/or diols can be used to form a polyurethane of disired performance.  So urethane chemists sometimes "blend" diisocyanates and/or diols to produce a new polyurethane.

FYI, urethane chemistry:
http://chem.chem.rochester.edu/~chem424/ureth.htm

Hope this helps.


Did anyone else get a headache after reading this cause I sure as hell did.
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ElectricLeftSlider

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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2007, 08:37:45 PM »
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Chemists have to say something now :-).

(Poly)urethane is generally synthesized from two kind of special chemical species.  They are diisocyanate and diol.  There are many kinds of diisocyanates and diols.  Combination of diisocyanate and diol govern the performance of polyurethane.  You all may imagine that more than one kind of diisocyanates and/or diols can be used to form a polyurethane of disired performance.  So urethane chemists sometimes "blend" diisocyanates and/or diols to produce a new polyurethane.

FYI, urethane chemistry:
http://chem.chem.rochester.edu/~chem424/ureth.htm

Hope this helps.


Did anyone else get a headache after reading this cause I sure as hell did.


Yeah, my scientific membrane isn't understanding it's logical.
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charlest

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Re: big shot????
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2007, 10:11:33 PM »
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Chemists have to say something now :-).

(Poly)urethane is generally synthesized from two kind of special chemical species.  They are diisocyanate and diol.  There are many kinds of diisocyanates and diols.  Combination of diisocyanate and diol govern the performance of polyurethane.  You all may imagine that more than one kind of diisocyanates and/or diols can be used to form a polyurethane of disired performance.  So urethane chemists sometimes "blend" diisocyanates and/or diols to produce a new polyurethane.

FYI, urethane chemistry:
http://chem.chem.rochester.edu/~chem424/ureth.htm

Hope this helps.


Not really. This has been mentioned previously. It is obviously how manufcaturers' chemists get many different reaction from the resin blends.

However, when a manufacturer uses the word "blend" on the information page of a ball, it is not normally used with referenceto the exact chemical blending of their resin formulas but to the mixing of coverstock formulas that are "pearlized"  and those that considered to be solids.

The precise "blending" of the diisocyanates and diols has little meaning to the average bowler.

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