i have or had the EP oriange,EP black, EP hybrid
the ep orange responded to quick to friction for me, redrilled it, many surface changes, just didnt like it. gave it away
the EP black was supposed to be the same piece, just different color, for me it is cleaner and a little longer, but 2-3 stronger off the spot
The EP hybrid is drilled differently than the 2 above, but i thought it was to clean for my medium pattern and ended up scuffing it by hand at the lanes
im 385ish, 16.5 mph, 4.75" over and .25" up
i don't think the black one responds to friction to quickly, however i put a 5" pin-pap on the black one vs a 4.5" pin on the orange one, so its much better for me.