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Pinoy25

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DARK ENCOUNTER VS DEFIANT
« on: December 10, 2011, 02:14:44 PM »
looking at the dark encounter and the rotogrip defiant... 
 
Looking for a top end solid for my bag so do i go defiant or dark encounter 
 
my bag is 716c and roto grip shooting star



 

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Re: DARK ENCOUNTER VS DEFIANT
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2011, 11:37:42 PM »
defiant is gonna be somethin out of this world with power and versitility from what i read and have seen. cant wait to try it

 

 


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Re: DARK ENCOUNTER VS DEFIANT
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2011, 10:31:26 AM »
I love my Encounter, so a solid version of that should be a nice 1-2 punch

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Re: DARK ENCOUNTER VS DEFIANT
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2011, 11:03:46 AM »

 



JustRico wrote on 12/11/2011 11:35 AM:
You CANNOT compare 2 products that NEITHER are even on the market yet. Marketing materials are always going to say they are the latest greatest since whatever....wait till the balls are in the market and bowlers have thrown to make an educated assumption


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Re: DARK ENCOUNTER VS DEFIANT
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2011, 11:10:57 AM »
 Assuming they are both great...and without them being released...let's say if u were preordering it.

Id go with with you like, plain and simple.  

I break it down like this.  Of the 10 houses I bowl in per year, plus what has worked in previous years at nationals, state etc..

What u average higher with? What gets the most use? What are your honor scores with?

I still buy every brand but only religiously buy what works for me...

I'm a Roto fan, but I can say both encounters do look appealing.  There unfortunately aren't any great bowlers throwing them around my neck of the woods.  On the other side of the coin I'm going to get the defiant because my theory is due to be replaced.  4 x 300s and an 8 just with the theory...I think roto earned its spot in my bag.  The question is...what will work for u. I'm one of the few who thought the theory was an improvement on the cell, hopefully the defiant will do the same.

They both will hook a ton in oil....id say do u bowl better with your 716c or your shooting star...cause theoretically your buying a stronger version of either one.

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Re: DARK ENCOUNTER VS DEFIANT
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2011, 01:55:41 PM »
I have to agree u have go by what rolls better for you, I myself I throw whatever is rolling good for me that night no matter what brand it is, and u cant go by sales because yes storm/roto is the best selling but doesnt mean it will roll better for you

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Re: DARK ENCOUNTER VS DEFIANT
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2011, 02:30:43 PM »
i would go with the DEFIANT  -- i am


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Re: DARK ENCOUNTER VS DEFIANT
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2011, 03:38:25 PM »

 Triple AAA+++ to that sir...
lbss831 wrote on 12/11/2011 11:31 AM:I love my Encounter, so a solid version of that should be a nice 1-2 punch

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Re: DARK ENCOUNTER VS DEFIANT
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2011, 03:43:31 PM »
Rico,

 

After reading all the posts on this thread, I'm left to wonder what exactly you meant in your last post? Why the slam on Ebonite/Columbia? Did someone diss your favorite brand or any brand for that fact? These types of responses to a question that was honestly asked tends to make me wonder what your motive is. I really like most of your posts, as you are very informative, but instead of  offering a suggestion outright or directing the person to another ball or brand that might fit what he wants, you throw in a Ebonite/Columbia slam. You've worked in the industry and still do for all I know, but wouldn't giving insight be a better route? Everyone has a brand they like better than others, I have had my most success with Columbia and very little with Storm, but being around the bowling business I don't point everyone at Columbia and away from Storm. I try to fit a person to a ball that is best for them no matter what company.