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coco3085

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columbia 300 scout/r hi flare?
« on: December 08, 2014, 02:54:38 PM »
Found this ball on eBay. Was looking for a dry lane ball. Anybody throw this? Any help would be appreciated. Looking for a ball under my storm super natural, and that is not just a pancake. Thanks in advance
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Gene J Kanak

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Re: columbia 300 scout/r hi flare?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2014, 03:14:47 PM »
I had one of these back in the day. I never threw it very much since it was supposed to be my dry lane ball, and I don't run into truly dry all that often; nevertheless, it was actually a good (and in my opinion underappreciate) piece. It definitely needed friction in order to hook, and even when it did hook, it wasn't uncontrollable the way resin can often be. If you can pick one up at a decent price, I would definitely point you in that direction.
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coco3085

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Re: columbia 300 scout/r hi flare?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2014, 03:40:26 PM »
Gene: thanks for the reply. I have been looking for a piece I can square up with on some old wood with old overlays. My super natural is a lot of ball sometimes more ball than it should be because of conditions. I just don't want to go scout, or storm mix, or motiv sniper, but seen this ball, and it seems to have good numbers. I thought I would rather go old school, than new because I can get a better block and weaker technology cover, verses good cover but no core. I have never seen one as it was out well before my time, in bowling at least.Thank you for taking the time to respond.
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Re: columbia 300 scout/r hi flare?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2014, 04:22:17 PM »
Please be aware, that the Scout Hi-Flare is still Super-Flex resin as the coverstock with a high flaring core, around .050". When it hits dry, it's going to have a relatively strong backend. It will NOT be weaker or straighter than a SuperNatural, at least in its polished form. If anything the SuperNatural will fit under the Scout. I you want to try to force the Scout to fit under the SN, I'd first suggest maybe a 6" pin-PAP to reduce to the flare and backend hook.

The Scout/R is resin:
http://www.123bowl.com/ball.cfm?ballid=2722
There also were a Scout Urethane Hi-Flare and a Scout Particle Hi-Flare.
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coco3085

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Re: columbia 300 scout/r hi flare?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2014, 04:34:32 PM »
Charlest: thanks for the reply. That does help because I want a ball under my super natural. If this ball will not fit the bill then I would rather know before I buy it. As I mentioned never seen it so your advice is worth it for me. Thanks for your time.
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Re: columbia 300 scout/r hi flare?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2014, 04:39:21 PM »
By the way, I asked this in another forum, but it may hold relevance here, how about 5x3x4. You mentioned 6 in to pap. I really don't want to force as you put it a ball to be something it's not. Just asking, I am not a driller so wondering what it would do. Thanks again in advance.
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Re: columbia 300 scout/r hi flare?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2014, 07:02:49 PM »
A long pin-PAP would reduce the flare and increase the RG, providing more length (with an RG of 2.61, you don't really need more length). With less flare you get less overall hook and less backend, in general.

I still think the Super-Flex coverstock, even without any flare from the core, would provide more hook than the SN.
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