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ThomasBowling

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Gem heavy oil ball
« on: April 07, 2016, 03:13:15 PM »
I'm looking to buy a new heavy oil ball that's retired. Just not by 15 year ok :P
I'm most interested in C300, Hammer and Motiv. (Don't mention the other 2 in this thread).
I'm a stroker, low rev rate, slightly above avg speed. Barelly any curve, very straight.
Axis tilt is barelly tilting :P
And I can spare the 10 pin on medium oil with my C300 Swerve. That's how little hook I can create :P So keep that in mind when posting.

Doesn't have to be considered a gem :P
Just has to be a great agressive ball that'll hook great on heavy oil.

GO.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2016, 03:28:35 PM by ThomasBowling »
Most used:
Motiv Venom Shock (14)
DV8 Grudge Hybrid (14)
Hammer Scandal (14)
DV8 Freakshow (14)

Sometimes.
C300 Swerve (14)
Motiv Jackal LE (14)

Retired:
Roto Grip Sinister (13)
Motiv Jackal (14)

Given to a no-thumber in the club:
Brunswick T-zone (13)

Might stick with Motiv from now on.

 

Dave81644

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Re: Gem heavy oil ball
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2016, 03:40:38 PM »
you already have the Scandal
that's a big hooking ball, what else are you looking for?

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Re: Gem heavy oil ball
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2016, 03:50:27 PM »
I have a Dark Encounter and a Wicked Encounter. Both are 15# NIB if you are interested.
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ThomasBowling

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Re: Gem heavy oil ball
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2016, 03:56:23 PM »
you already have the Scandal
that's a big hooking ball, what else are you looking for?

It's hard to control man :P
The Swerve is easier to control for me.

Though I want to try a ball that hooks early or delayed.


Most used:
Motiv Venom Shock (14)
DV8 Grudge Hybrid (14)
Hammer Scandal (14)
DV8 Freakshow (14)

Sometimes.
C300 Swerve (14)
Motiv Jackal LE (14)

Retired:
Roto Grip Sinister (13)
Motiv Jackal (14)

Given to a no-thumber in the club:
Brunswick T-zone (13)

Might stick with Motiv from now on.

CoorZero

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Re: Gem heavy oil ball
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2016, 04:13:24 PM »
So you want a heavy oil ball that hooks more than the Swerve, but less than the Scandal? The Antics might fit that description.

Dave81644

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Re: Gem heavy oil ball
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2016, 04:24:25 PM »
the paradox and the legion are below that
but before I would try something else, put some polish over the 2000 dull coverstock
it will still hook plenty, just in a different spot


the Paradox is a really good piece and about 4-5 less than the Scandal
the Legion is less than the Paradox but still above the swerve

remember: ball surface accounts for 50% of ball motion
don't be afraid to try different surfaces, polishes, etc
1000+ polish, 2000+ polish, 4000+ polish, many different combinations to choose from
take the scandal back to where you got it and talk to him
surface change is easy step to try, maybe a weight hole could be added to tame it also

ThomasBowling

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Re: Gem heavy oil ball
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2016, 04:28:59 PM »
I don't mind the extra hook, that wasn't what I meant.
I just said that the Scandal is harder for me to figure out than the Swerve.
I know the Scandal probably is the most hooking ball on the market atm.
But my Scandal hooks late. And I don't think any layout will make it hook early like I'd prefer on a new ball. I just want something diffrent than the 2 I'm currently using. Experimental.
The Covert Revolt has early hook. But I doubt the PSO has that one too unfortunatly.
So I'll have to dig in his van and ask him which ball will hook earlier than late :P
Most used:
Motiv Venom Shock (14)
DV8 Grudge Hybrid (14)
Hammer Scandal (14)
DV8 Freakshow (14)

Sometimes.
C300 Swerve (14)
Motiv Jackal LE (14)

Retired:
Roto Grip Sinister (13)
Motiv Jackal (14)

Given to a no-thumber in the club:
Brunswick T-zone (13)

Might stick with Motiv from now on.

Dave81644

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Re: Gem heavy oil ball
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2016, 10:34:49 PM »
if you want earlier hook and still strong, then the Bad Intentions is it.

ThomasBowling

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Re: Gem heavy oil ball
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2016, 08:57:58 AM »
if you want earlier hook and still strong, then the Bad Intentions is it.

Same for the Hybrid?
Most used:
Motiv Venom Shock (14)
DV8 Grudge Hybrid (14)
Hammer Scandal (14)
DV8 Freakshow (14)

Sometimes.
C300 Swerve (14)
Motiv Jackal LE (14)

Retired:
Roto Grip Sinister (13)
Motiv Jackal (14)

Given to a no-thumber in the club:
Brunswick T-zone (13)

Might stick with Motiv from now on.

Dave81644

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Re: Gem heavy oil ball
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2016, 09:09:48 AM »
the hybrid gets through the heads better, the original BI rolss right away with any surface it seems. o a medium pattern at this house,we have to go 500, 2000, + polish to get it down the lane.
scuff it up and it rolls pretty early
now these are older synthetics that have alot of friction, but there is also quite a a bit of volume to try and compensate