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BuddiesProShopcom - Tim

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So the 2008-2009 lineup is is now available...(long post)
« on: July 18, 2008, 02:03:27 PM »
and all I can say is "WOW!"

[the following feedback is based on my use on our THS and the PBA Scorpion pattern, all balls used a dual angle layout of 40 by 30, with the pin at 4" from my PAP, weight hole on my PAP (unless otherwise noted)]

The Momentum Swing was the nicest surprise of the 3 new balls.  On the house shot, I was able to just stand left, and throw right.  As long as I got good axis tilt, the ball would come back from anywhere.  I could keep moving left,  and keep banking off the dry boards (without sacrificing hitting power).  On the Scorpion, it was too much ball to go up the lane.  My best reaction came from playing the middle of the lane (about 18 at the arrows to about 7).  If I got it a little wide, it would come back enough to catch the headpin, but 2-4-8-10s were not an uncommon leave.

Compared to the Momentum, the Swing was easily 5-7 boards more hook.  The Resurgence (pin 4" from PAP, 40 by 70 dual angle, hole on my PAP, 2000 Abralon) was only 1-2 boards more overall, but the Swing had much more of an angular move off the spot.  The Momentum Swing brings a strong backend to go along with the great midlane read to the high performance line.

I drilled 2 Arch Rivals, one with the given layout, and one with the pin 4 5/8" from my pap, under my fingers.  The Arch Rival is the coveted long/strong ball for medium-heavy oil.  The pin-down Arch gave a similar ball motion to the Momentum Swing.  The difference was the Swing read the midlane a hair more, allowing the Swing to play 2 boards left of the pin-down Arch.  The pin-up Arch Rival was about 3 feet longer than the pin-down, but had a much harder move off the breakpoint.  Because of the harder move, I had to stand 3 boards left of the pin-down.  Depending on hand position, my Rival was 7-10 boards less than bo Arch Rivals, and had that classic benchmark-ball arc.

I drilled a Noize a little differently, as I did not have any higher Rg balls with the pin below my fingers.  It was drilled 55 by 70, with the pin 4 3/4" from my PAP.  I assume this ball is meant to replace the recently discontinued Wrath High Flush.  I believe the Noize compliments the Wrath Dead Flush a lot better than the High Flush.  The High Flush had pearl in the coverstock, as does the Dead Flush.  The Noize cover has no pearl in it, giving bowlers a mid-price alternative to medium-heavy oil.  The super-strong "New Era" cover provides great traction, while the higher-Rg core helps prevent the ball from burning up.  I can see this ball being a big seller.

Compared to my Dead Flush (5" from PAP, 60 by 40), the Noize was 6-7 boards stronger.  Together, they make a great 1-2 punch at this price-point.  The High Flush was great for what it was intended for.  It gave more length and flip, with less hook than the other Columbia balls released last year.  When the Dead Flush was released, there was no need to have a High Flush anymore.  The Noize gives bowlers something different.  It gives a slightly lesser hook than the Rival, but still has that arcing ball motion.  For me, it was 3-4 boards strong than my High Flush (and looks a heck of a lot cooler going down the lane!)

I drilled a Jazz Orange/Yellow and a Scout Green/Silver just to have them.  The Jazz is a heck of a ball for the money, and the Scout is a proven winner.  There is no doubt in my mind that Columbia 300 has the broadest and most versatile product lineup in the Industry.
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Re: So the 2008-2009 lineup is is now available...(long post)
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2008, 07:59:37 PM »
When do we get to see videos of you throwing the balls Tim??

I'm interested in both the Noize and Momentum Swing
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Re: So the 2008-2009 lineup is is now available...(long post)
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2008, 01:19:55 AM »
could the archrival be used on heavy oil? do i need to scuff it?? ir so, up to wha grit?? tnx!

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Re: So the 2008-2009 lineup is is now available...(long post)
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2008, 03:22:56 PM »
SVstar:  The videos will probably be shot later this week. (I bowled a lot of games over the past couple days so I'm going to let my hand heal up a bit)

Gokenong:  Out of the box, the Arch Rival would probably go a little too long to be used on truly "heavy" oil.  You would probably have to bring the surface down to 2000, and if that isn't enough traction, go down to 1000.  To be honest, you are probably better off getting a Resurgence, that is the epitome of a heavy oil ball.
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Re: So the 2008-2009 lineup is is now available...(long post)
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2008, 10:44:00 PM »
thanks Tim... Yeah, I thought about getting a resurgence... But, its already sold out here in the philippines... So, I have no choice... Hence, I got the arch rival instead.. Well, I'll just try scuffing it to 1000 then..

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Re: So the 2008-2009 lineup is is now available...(long post)
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2008, 11:59:38 PM »
Hey Tim,
That's about what I saw in this equipment at our ball testing and I told our friend, Ricky Woods what I thought about the new Columbia stuff. I was really impressed with the new releases and Ricky said you guys and he mentioned Chris F. was impressed as well. Thanks for the great reviews and video that you guys provide, it helps me in my shop to have customer watch your videos so they have an idea what to expect! I send a lot of people to your website to buy equipment when I know you have deals going on! Thanks again, Bruce
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