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LuckyLefty

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Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« on: March 17, 2005, 03:57:40 PM »
I've had this nice lookin, good shape condition ball for awhile.

Every time I used it it made a real nice relatively slow smooth hook

I mean how could it not.  Drilled 4 X 4 1/2.  Strongish drill.

However on anything but some soaked area this ball is the nice 15...FRUDAY

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LUckylefty
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Re: Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2005, 12:12:34 AM »
your taking the original icon?

i have seen you rave about the icon 2.
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Re: Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2005, 02:48:26 AM »
I liked the Icon and loved the Icon 2 - until they cracked.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2005, 09:25:48 AM »
ZZZZZZZZ!  Oh I'm up now!!

Yeah,  Everytime I've thrown the original Icon it has had a nice smooth move and covered some boards and couldn't carry for Crap!

But a couple of weeks ago I took it to my wet dry league and it almost looked good!  Real hard move at the back from the alleys but the smooth Icon looked good reading it sort of slow.

So yesterday I go in.  The Icon 2 has been a little jumpy.  Took out my new jewel the panic and even though it's smooth arc looked great, it was too long this day.

Took out the Icon and it looked just liked the panic but the right length.

Well instead of trying to carry inside I went outside and the thing after a spare in the first frame just carried the world.  Smooth almost too much energy burn in the front but it just kept strikin!  Had a shot at 290 then all of a sudden...."Luckylefty you have a phone call at the front counter(10th frame)."

This is three weeks in a row!  Does this broad have a camera in the alley!?

Blow up and then after resettling started rattling off a string in the second game!

This ball on a sniff of carrydown will hit the pocket and leave 7 9s but when fresh!!!! oh baby!  Good strong core, slow reading smooth coverstock.  Develops some angle if it has the time!

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Luckylefty
PS if you like the panic and need that same smooth read earlier with a touch more angularity... This is not bad!  Situational!
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2005, 11:04:58 AM »
Do you guys find that at the sniff of carrydown it stops hitting?

Mine seems to have early burn also.  What surface do you use on this smooth almost dog almost hero?

REgards,

Lucky
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Re: Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2005, 12:49:13 PM »
We drilled up a boat load of these and I'2s. 1000 to 1200 sheen seemed to be the best for early enough read but not to bad burn on a med-heavy house shot with lots of head oil and pretty clean backends. A little elixir and maybe some of track's clean and sheen might do it. You could even try a single light coat of black magic without burning it in and seen if the carry is better. If your burning too much too early, carrydown will only magnify the energy loss.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2005, 05:14:24 PM »
I think ICOn 300 is every bit as good.  Have another lefty right next ot me that is doing just fine since he switched to it.

Original Icon is very picky for me when it wants to strike!  But the other night I knew in practice it was a match.  

REally nice an early panic with a little more curl.  Usually less energy!

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Luckylefty
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Re: Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2005, 08:45:10 AM »
Any more info on the surfacing some guys do on these balls?

REgards,

LUckylefty
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Re: Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2005, 10:49:34 PM »
Got some nice help by email from Chad Murphy of Columbia who emailed me and then offered me a chance to call him with more questions I did.

Gained a lot of understanding of this ball and some other concepts relating to over under which I will post in this forum.

VERY HELPFUL!

Thanks!

Key point on this ball is the relatively low flare potential(.38).  AS he said on Fresh or sport type shots this ball just has a real sweet spot!

REgards,

LUckylefty
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Re: Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2005, 10:13:26 PM »
I have not had the guts to mess with this surface!

This ball is so smooth and so strong, and I just keep strikin on a condition that is and has been a lefty killer(overreactive backs).

Had a coule of 9 to 1 as the breakpoint strikes today.  It just keeps comin and comin and comin!

Blam!

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Luckylefty
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Re: Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2005, 08:08:32 AM »
Columbia SAYS sand, scotch brite etc are all OK.

I'm afraid to mess with as I've already had so many streaks with it!

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LUkcylefty
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Re: Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2005, 08:20:41 AM »
Wussy!!! You might find it will carry even better! I have tended to play with surfaces too much this past year but found out some cool things from trying it. Low Flare definitely have a calling that is greatly overlooked by most of the public. Go to sport conditions or tournaments that are hard and you find a great appreciation of lower diffs. Crankers should definitely look at these types of balls.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2005, 10:32:12 AM »
Wussy!  You found me out!  Wish I had a second one to try this stuff out on!

rEgards,

Luckylefty
PS preparing to purchase some clean and sheen however.
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Re: Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2005, 11:26:34 PM »
One wonders how a drilling like that could be legal without a 4 inch deep ring finger hole?  Don't ya?
A Wiseman without a weighthole???  Our friends from Brunswick would say that would react very dramatically due to ....... drumroll please.... Pin position!
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LUckylefty
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Re: Icon.... A dud? Or a Dude?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2005, 08:18:03 PM »
Thats like a 0-degree layout, and no one from Brunswick would tell you that would react dramatically, regardless of the pin placement.
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