Mine just never hooked which resulted in getting rid of it. I was surprised but it was just super weak. I had a couple decent games with it, but had a lot of bad games with it too so I got rid of it. I had the #1 drilling on it. I just wonder if thats what it was that made it so weak. I never did understand why they recommend a label leverage drilling on there stuff. It was super smooth and too much like my Rival, which is oil soaked, so it didn't have a spot in my bag. I thought about drilling another one with a different pattern on it but never did. I was thinking about the swing but I think I might drill a complete nv cause I know what that ball does.