Author Topic: rival and resurgence impressions (Read 3535 times)

chrisleftwich · « **on:** August 22, 2007, 01:19:39 AM »

I have already drilled one Resurgence and two rivals.

All three balls give a very good roll.

Resurgence is drilled stacked and the ball is a hook monster that I will oly get to use on floods, but that is what it is for.

#1 rival is drilled pin up between fingers and CG kicked a litte to the right, I have put Beans Sauce on it and the ball goes long and makes a nice move to the pocket, but not a hard snap that is uncontrolable.

#2 Rival is drilled pin under ring finger and the CG kicked right, this ball is still OOB condition. This ball has a strong midlane roll and great continuation through the pins and is about 5 boards stronger than the polished rival.

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Chris Leftwich
Active Duty Coast Guard member.

JeffVoght · « **Reply #1 on:** August 22, 2007, 09:39:19 PM »

Chris-

I'd agree on the Resurgence. I have one pin-over ring at 1000 with polish that is good on medium-heavy, but I can't see using this ball for anything other than what it was intended for: a FLOOD.

I only have one Rival at the moment, but I'm looking forward to drilling another. The cover seems extremely versatile, and I think the core will allow for many different drillings.

Good luck in the future with these!
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Jeff Voght
Proud member of Columbia 300's Regional Staff
Owner, Iroquois Lanes and Restaurant
PBA Eastern Region Member

chrisleftwich · « **Reply #2 on:** August 23, 2007, 07:21:37 AM »

thanks for the reply JeffVoght.
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Chris Leftwich
Active Duty Coast Guard member.

mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #3 on:** August 26, 2007, 10:34:35 PM »

Resurgence might be the best oil ball i have ever thrown, pin under ring 4 1/2 x 4 1/4 no weight hole box finish.

This ball recovers on an oily lane like nothing i have ever used, it hooked circles around the following balls i had with me today.

Rotogrip quest pin over ring 4 3/4 and mb 4 inch to pap box

Ebonite NVS 4k no polish

Hammer No mercy beat'N box

Blast zone drilled the same as the quest box finish.

The other balls did hook don't get me wrong but easily 9-10 less boards overall, the resurgence is the most continous big arcing ball that i have thrown.

It makes you look like you have alot of hand if you really do not like me, you can speed it up or dump it the ball will make it back no matter what if there is at least medium-heavy oil.

willster · « **Reply #4 on:** August 28, 2007, 10:57:56 AM »

I just got both the Rival and Resurgence last night but only had a chance to try the Rival. I got them in my hands half way through the first game and ran 8, 9, 10, 11, then 10 pin with the Rival.

Second game went 245 with a open in the 7th (missed the 6 pin, would of made the 10)

Third game I switch to the Packed to see the difference (didn't have the Action or Apogee) and I was playing 4 less boards but hitting it harder.

On Wednesday during practice I will be able to try both againest the Action. The Action has been my bench mark ball for a year and a half. I think the Rival is going to fill the spot just fine.

I will post my thoughts in a review with the drillings and finishs.
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Bag: Resurgence
Rival
Action (practice only)
Apogee
Action Packed
Dr. Jekyll
Bash (Ebonite)
Scout

trash heap · « **Reply #5 on:** August 28, 2007, 11:00:51 AM »

What Heavy oil pattern have you tried the Resurgence on?

PBA Shot?
Sport Shot?

Just wanting to know.

john178 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 28, 2007, 01:31:14 PM »

I currently have a TNV and BWP in my aresenal. Obviously, neither of these balls are good for heavy oil.

I am looking at the Fury -or- possibly the Resurgence.

How do these two balls compare to each other?

Edited on 8/28/2007 1:31 PM

jkiser01 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 28, 2007, 01:39:06 PM »

The resurgence is MUCH better for heavy oil over the Fury.. I had a Fury and hated it.. It was not good on the heavy oil I tried it on..

Get the resurgence, you will be very happy..
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My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..

mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #8 on:** August 28, 2007, 03:01:46 PM »

Resurgence will hook circles around the Fury, i had the fury close to the same drilling at at 1k for awhile. The Fury is weird ball sometimes it hooks alot and other times it very straight, most people i know that have it got rid of it already.

My Infinite One made the Fury look straight when i did have them on the same lane condition's. Now the Rotogrip Quest is closer to the resurgence but still a step down in oil hooking power.

mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #9 on:** August 29, 2007, 12:06:59 AM »

Again threw the resurgence and the rival tonight both balls were top notch i think i like this 1-2 punch better than anything else i might have. Below was tonight's rotation and waht they did for me.

resurgence revs up hard and never quits let's me move inside about 5-6 boards and toss it right, amazing ball will hook aton with forward roll or backend more with a 75 degree release.

Rival revs up hard and is at least 10 boards straighter, box is 4k and not touched this ball is your choice for a house shot in box.

Gamebreaker in box revs up pretty hard and backends pretty decent, closer to the Rival than the Resurgence in hook shape.

Ogre Solid took it back too 1k no polish from 2k, i think my strike percent was at least 80 percent. It was the 2nd largest hooking ball out of this group believe it or not, i must say this ball is a great ball. It will make the trip with me alot this year, it could replace the Resurgence and be a 1-2 punch with the Rival.

No Mercy Beat'N 1k no polish believe it or not this ball was the mildest of all of them, it got down the lane well and had a pretty angular backend not as much as the Angular One but like that kind of hook shape.

Interesting Night there was plenty of oil to wipe off so i know there was no burning going on, it shows me that sometimes lower differentials like the Ogre and Resurgence mean jack crap.

justdale · « **Reply #10 on:** August 29, 2007, 06:49:52 AM »

I have to agree with Jeff Voght, the Resurgence is here for one reason, lots of oil, I threw it on monday and it was good for about practice and 1 game, then with all the people using there stuff it wasn't long before I had to put it away. I am going to have to bring up the finish a little, maybe 1000 or 2000.
I love the way this ball makes its move and just keeps on going, once I get enough games on it, it will be easier for me to drill another one to go longer
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Dale Williams
Columbia 300 Utah Amateur Staff

trash heap · « **Reply #11 on:** August 29, 2007, 10:29:21 AM »

What Heavy oil patterns are you using the Resurgence on?

Anyone?

Is it the THS you are using this ball on?

jkiser01 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 29, 2007, 10:35:23 AM »

why do you want to know what oil patterns its being used on??

I have used it in 3 different (1 double oiled for traveling league) houses on fresh oil and its worked great in all 3 houses. Have I used it on any PBA patterns, no.. Not yet.. But I have no reason to believe it will not be very good on those conditions as well..

JK

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What Heavy oil patterns are you using the Resurgence on?

Anyone?

Is it the THS you are using this ball on?

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My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..

Edited on 8/29/2007 10:40 AM

mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #13 on:** August 29, 2007, 11:15:37 AM »

40 foot blend not a top hat, the pair was fresh and every shot had oil on the flare rings so it was on the heavier side. Considered the lowest scoring house in the Las Vegas area a couple of upper level guys score well here but almost nobody that is not highly skilled.

I am not highly skilled but do know what i am looking at ball reaction wise, put it this way too average over 215 there you probably have a regional title or megabucks title. I average right at 199 there i am ok bowling wise but a big step down from the better players, i bowl injured daily so do not judge the way i throw the ball though.

I wear a knee brace with metal hinges and my knee actually will collapse without wearing it under the stress of bowling, in other words i should not even be bowling but say screw and live through the pain even now as i sit here writing this.

On my old league at South Point none of these balls but maybe the beat'N would be too much friction too fast. The last time i threw the solid Ogre at South Point it burned by the arrows, they do use a light medium top hat that is honestly one of the easiest shots in town except maybe Sam's Town or Suncoast.

If i had better wheels i would be at 215 every where i bowl but when you cannot get down on a shot and have to think about pain as you do try to get down it is challenge just too bowl.

willster · « **Reply #14 on:** August 30, 2007, 01:45:48 PM »

Had a chance to match everything up and here is the results.

Note: I had all my equipment cleaned and resurfaced just before practice so I could compare. I had Resurgence and Rival drilled the same, pin over the ring finger and cg stright below. THS around 40 feet. Made sure the breaking point was around 8-10 for all the balls (except the bash, not drilled for that).

Resurgence (box finish): Left foot was finishing on 30-32.

Rival (box finish): Left foot on 25-27.

Action (600 sanded finish): Same line as Rival but revs more in the heads. The Rival goes a little longer with a bigger backend.

Apogee (800 sanded finish): Same line a Rival but cleaner through the heads with less mid lane recovery.

Action Packed (800 saned finish): 2-3 boards less then the Rival and Apogee but more lenght then both.

Dr. Jekyll (800 then polished): 2-3 less then Packed with more lenght.

Bash (box finish): 3-4 less then the Dr. but break point was around 12-13.

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