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dougb

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Super-Flex cover question
« on: December 06, 2011, 04:33:50 PM »
How strong is the cover on modern lane conditions?  I know this was on many Columbia 300 and AMF balls in the past, including the Beast, Messenger, Jazz, and Scout series.  My impression is this is a fairly weak cover, more for lighter oil conditions.  Am I correct?
 
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dougb

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Re: Super-Flex cover question
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2011, 08:30:50 AM »
I think I threw you guys off by mentioning the Blackout and Super-Flex -- sorry! I'm looking forward to comparing the Blackout to another ball with Super-Flex and similar core stats, the Lane #1 THS.
 
Solaris balls are actually poured by 900 Global, so I'm not sure which cover it has.
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Re: Super-Flex cover question
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2011, 03:34:43 PM »
I tried the THS when it first came out. I was surprised it was supposed to be or have Super-Flex.I pinged 10 pins till doomsday with it, trying several surfaces with one drilling til I gave up. I'm not happy with BASF coverstocks on diamond-type cores. I much prefer BAYER (Brunswick) coverstocks on diamond cores.
 
dougb wrote on 12/9/2011 9:30 AM:
I think I threw you guys off by mentioning the Blackout and Super-Flex -- sorry! I'm looking forward to comparing the Blackout to another ball with Super-Flex and similar core stats, the Lane #1 THS.
 
Solaris balls are actually poured by 900 Global, so I'm not sure which cover it has.


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Tex

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Re: Super-Flex cover question
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2011, 08:00:03 PM »
It is my understanding that the Super Flex resin is still used today. Remember 900 Global is in the original Columbia plant and Ebonite did not buy the C300 coverstock formulas. Just the names of those companies. Who knows which of the 900, AMF, Lane 1 or even lower end Storm balls, plus any others that are poured there might be that exact formula, but some would be. The same basic resin could be tweaked to provide a wide variety of strengths as well, just give them some more current name or number.


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Re: Super-Flex cover question
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2011, 02:11:13 AM »
No. I went with my VG/Anarchy combo from a deep inside angle. 236,235,225 so not too shabby. Not the look I had early in the year up there but the pattern has tightened up on everyone.

 

Shot 772 with the THS 2 years ago in the same house playing up 8 to 6 or so. Could have had 800 out of the box with it with better adjustments or knew what to expect from the ball when they transitioned. It is a good ball though. I just hate playing through all the friction when I can get deeper than most and not have my line burned up all night.
 



dougb wrote on 12/7/2011 11:11 PM:
I hope you pulled the THS off the shelf.  One of the most underrated balls out there from any company, IMO.

 

I ended up ordering the Solaris Blackout. I'm going to put a rico drill on it and will post a review when I get some games with it.  I expect it will roll a little sooner and be just as smooth. 



completebowler wrote on 12/7/2011 1:02 PM:
Oh yeah...forgot about that one when stating the Boss and NightHawk were the best two balls with SuperFlex. The Retro THS would definitely have to get some votes in that category too. Still have mine sitting around..aybe I should dig it out tonight.
 






dougb wrote on 12/7/2011 9:25 AM:

Thanks everybody, this is really helpful.  I have a Lane #1 Retro Buzzsaw THS.  From what I understand, the BASF Bleeder Coverstock is really Super-Flex as this is when C300 was pouring for the company.


 


This, along with the medium RG (2.502) and low differential core (0.035), explains why the ball is so super-smooth on THS shots.  I have found it takes well to adjustments too, much like PK18.


 


I'm wondering how it would compare to the Seismic Solaris Blackout, which has a weaker cover and similar stats (although the RG is slightly lower).


 


Since Charlest just bought a Blackout, maybe he can weigh in! 



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