Post by: Blows on November 08, 2007, 02:04:40 PM
By the way out of the box a i shot a 233,213,259.Very nice ball
Post by: jkiser01 on November 09, 2007, 05:01:55 AM
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Post by: arashi300 on November 09, 2007, 05:32:24 AM
Post by: charlest on November 09, 2007, 08:54:35 AM
use the same cleaner on EVERY resin/particle ball. There is no special cleaner for any one ball!
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Post by: Xfest on November 09, 2007, 09:01:12 AM
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Post by: Dan Belcher on November 09, 2007, 09:13:02 AM
quote:Which is, as gets pointed out on this forum almost daily, illegal.
Acetone.
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Post by: 302efi on November 09, 2007, 01:11:05 PM
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Post by: strikestriketapped on November 11, 2007, 06:43:13 PM
quote:
Acetone.
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Post by: 302efi on November 11, 2007, 06:57:56 PM
quote:quote:
Acetone.
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Post by: Dan Belcher on November 11, 2007, 06:59:52 PM
quote:Erm, no. To quote myself from just a few posts earlier in this thread...quote:quote:
Acetone.
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"[Acetone] is, as gets pointed out on this forum almost daily, illegal. "
Post by: 302efi on November 11, 2007, 07:01:18 PM
.... it works, bottem-line.
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Post by: charlest on November 11, 2007, 07:06:56 PM
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Has anyone here ever tried the ball cleaner put out by Lanemasters? It smells like it has acetone in it. If it does, would it be illegal? Or is a certain percentage of acetone allowed in a ball cleaner?
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Actually it does not smell like acetone.
It IS idustrial strength isopropyl alcohol, according to Lanemasters management. It is legal for use, but not during sanctioned competition. It was supposed to be submitted for approval. I have not heard of the results yet.
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Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on November 11, 2007, 07:48:44 PM
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Post by: 302efi on November 11, 2007, 07:54:03 PM
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If you want to use acetone, and not care that it is illegal. Go ahead but when you start to kill the reaction in your ball, dont blame us who say not to use it. It will only make your cover softer meaning earlier hook, meaning loss of backend reaction. We all know most people consider backend reaction to be hook. So if you want to loss what most people call hook use ACETONE.
Sounds like a response from a guy that made this video:
http://media.putfile.com/cleaning-a-bowling-ball
LOL !
You got any proof that it kills the reaction ?
Please show some FACTS and not just talk !
Links ?
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Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on November 12, 2007, 12:01:06 AM
quote:quote:
If you want to use acetone, and not care that it is illegal. Go ahead but when you start to kill the reaction in your ball, dont blame us who say not to use it. It will only make your cover softer meaning earlier hook, meaning loss of backend reaction. We all know most people consider backend reaction to be hook. So if you want to loss what most people call hook use ACETONE.
Sounds like a response from a guy that made this video:
http://media.putfile.com/cleaning-a-bowling-ball
LOL !
You got any proof that it kills the reaction ?
Please show some FACTS and not just talk !
Links ?
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Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
302,
I say it kills reaction from what I have seen. A man who bowled in a league straight told me before, I clean my ball in acetone. There isnt much I can do but call him out on it but if I cant go to his house ang get the acetone and show he used it on his ball then I cant do much more. Yet over time he was forced to get a new ball because it lost so much reaction that this high performance oil ball was dull and able to be used on a burnt out shot that I was using a Desert Heat on, and I was still going left of the head pin. He was able to play right up 10 on old wood lanes right in the heart of the track area.
Also if something is softer it will hook earlier, the earlier you burn up energy the less you have to transfer on the backend so you lose backend reaction.
Also thanks for the video plug. I would like to state that what you seen in the video was to be dont with any ball cleaner. The only thing that should changed is the grit of the abrasive or the use of an abrasive. That is it, and only that should change. You should always go over the ball with a little water to make sure no cleaner leaves a film or anything after. That statement by me is just like the statement of "Never salt your meal before you tast it."
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Edited on 11/12/2007 1:03 AM
Post by: justdale on November 12, 2007, 11:15:12 AM
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Post by: Dan Belcher on November 12, 2007, 03:46:46 PM
quote:So just because you don't care about the rule doesn't mean it doesn't matter? RULES ARE RULES. ACETONE IS ILLEGAL. I can't make it any more black and white than that.
Dan no one cares its illegal !
.... it works, bottem-line.
Post by: 302efi on November 12, 2007, 03:53:35 PM
quote:quote:So just because you don't care about the rule doesn't mean it doesn't matter? RULES ARE RULES. ACETONE IS ILLEGAL. I can't make it any more black and white than that.
Dan no one cares its illegal !
.... it works, bottem-line.
Ok then explain why its illegal ?
Give a player an unfair advantage ?
Your implying that Acetone is the steroids of bowling >??
If you see a proshop using it, do you go "snitch" on them ?
You Acetone haters are a trip
Bottem-line is its a outdated and rule that can not be enforced, case-closed.
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Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
Post by: Dan Belcher on November 12, 2007, 04:43:11 PM
quote:It doesn't matter if it is out-dated and can't be enforced. It's still in the rulebook. It doesn't matter if it gives you an advantage or not. Going an inch over the foul line doesn't give you an advantage, but it's still against the rules, for example. RULES ARE RULES.quote:quote:So just because you don't care about the rule doesn't mean it doesn't matter? RULES ARE RULES. ACETONE IS ILLEGAL. I can't make it any more black and white than that.
Dan no one cares its illegal !
.... it works, bottem-line.
Ok then explain why its illegal ?
Give a player an unfair advantage ?
Your implying that Acetone is the steroids of bowling >??
If you see a proshop using it, do you go "snitch" on them ?
You Acetone haters are a trip
Bottem-line is its a outdated and rule that can not be enforced, case-closed.
Post by: 302efi on November 12, 2007, 08:08:05 PM
Why hasnt USBC sent a letter to every proshop and inform then not to use Acetone bowling balls since 99% of them use it ?
The rule will bechanged and adapted to todays game sooner or later.
How many 300s or 800s have be shot because of Acetone ?...Nil discussion IMO.
Acetone is just another solvent/cleaner that works very well.
Also, if USBC can enforce the rule, then why is it a rule ?
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Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
Post by: Dan Belcher on November 13, 2007, 07:16:22 AM
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on November 13, 2007, 11:00:19 AM
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Dan its just an old outdated rule that has no bearing on todays game.
Why hasnt USBC sent a letter to every proshop and inform then not to use Acetone bowling balls since 99% of them use it ?
The rule will bechanged and adapted to todays game sooner or later.
How many 300s or 800s have be shot because of Acetone ?...Nil discussion IMO.
Acetone is just another solvent/cleaner that works very well.
Also, if USBC can enforce the rule, then why is it a rule ?
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When faced with a difficult situation, Jesus asks himself, "What would Chuck Norris do?"
Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
It doesnt matter what has been donw with acetone. It softens what it is used on, and the use of it on a ball can cause the sofntness of the ball to fall under the hardness limits. This will in return add to the ball being able to hook more on the lane. This is why acetone is illegal.
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Youngstown, Ohio
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Finishing Composit ave: 194
Track HITMAN.
Tag Team Coaching Success Story.
Post by: 302efi on November 13, 2007, 12:27:50 PM
...and there is small amounts in the human body ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone
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Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
Post by: six pack on November 13, 2007, 02:49:38 PM
go ahead and clean your stuff with acetone,I won't tell.personally I use simple green.
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Post by: six pack on November 13, 2007, 09:32:13 PM
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Post by: Jim12387 on November 19, 2007, 11:19:09 PM
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