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Equipment Boards => Columbia 300 => Topic started by: BigJohnC on January 26, 2014, 10:23:57 PM

Title: Rock On
Post by: BigJohnC on January 26, 2014, 10:23:57 PM
Can anyone tell me what the original surface on the Rock On was. I was given one recently and when I have it plugged and drilled I was going to have it surfaced back to original.
Title: Re: Rock On
Post by: tommyboy74 on January 27, 2014, 12:03:33 AM
It's definitely tough to find specs for it.  However, doing a Google search, it was showing on an eBay listing that the surface is 800/1000 Abralon followed by PowerHouse factory finish.  The Rock On uses the TEC2 particle cover, so it is designed for oil.

Title: Re: Rock On
Post by: 3835 on January 27, 2014, 07:55:58 AM
Powerhouse is incorrect. Although I do not know exactly what it was, PowerHouse has always been an Ebonite Product and the Rock On came out in 2000 or so when Columbia was still Columbia in Texas and had their own products and did not use any Ebonite Products. There was Tec Shine, Tec FInish, and all of the Track products as well such as Clean n Sheen, etc.

3835
Title: Re: Rock On
Post by: Weaser on January 27, 2014, 08:05:46 AM
Degree?
Title: Re: Rock On
Post by: Impending Doom on January 27, 2014, 08:27:14 AM
Box finish doesn't matter. Match the surface up to the conditions you're bowling on.
Title: Re: Rock On
Post by: TWOHAND834 on January 27, 2014, 08:53:00 AM
I bought a NIB off of Ebay a couple years ago and it came dull.  Not knowing exactly what was on it; every once in awhile I use Clean and Dull on it and hit it lightly with a fresh 1000 abralon.  Makes a decent oil ball that still clears the front part of the lane fairly well and have even shot some decent scores with it out at USBC Tournament.
Title: Re: Rock On
Post by: Aloarjr810 on January 27, 2014, 08:56:17 AM
Considering the cover is a high load particle and The only listing for the OOB on the "Rock On" is "Matte"

That would suggest it was probably around a Green or Gray Scotchbrite surface.

But as Impending said don't be married to the OOB, use whatever surface matches the conditions.
Title: Re: Rock On
Post by: BigJohnC on January 27, 2014, 01:57:54 PM
Thanks to everyone who has responded this far. I know that I will have to match the surface to the conditions I am bowling on. I was planning on starting with box finish and adjust to where I need it from there. Thanks again to everyone who has helped so far.
Title: Re: Rock On
Post by: Dave81644 on January 27, 2014, 04:40:42 PM
start @ 2000 and see what happens
1000 is to dull to start, can always adjust on lanes if need be
Title: Re: Rock On
Post by: kotm on January 28, 2014, 01:24:06 AM
final factory process on the rock on was a 10 micron trizact orbital sanding pad followed by a dry buff.  a good 1000 pad would be just a tad smoother than NIB.
Title: Re: Rock On
Post by: Aloarjr810 on January 28, 2014, 06:54:50 AM
final factory process on the rock on was a 10 micron trizact orbital sanding pad followed by a dry buff.  a good 1000 pad would be just a tad smoother than NIB.
Interesting where did that factory process info come from?

A 1000 (meaning a abralon P1000) pad is about 18 microns and with the foam backing of the abralon it wouldn't damage the particles as much as a trizact would.

So the surface would be just a bit rougher than A 10 Micron Trizact surface not smoother.



Title: Re: Rock On
Post by: kotm on January 28, 2014, 03:28:14 PM

Interesting where did that factory process info come from?

A 1000 (meaning a abralon P1000) pad is about 18 microns and with the foam backing of the abralon it wouldn't damage the particles as much as a trizact would.

So the surface would be just a bit rougher than A 10 Micron Trizact surface not smoother.

From Columbia 300 when they were manufacturing in San Antonio.  I was told that the differences in cutting speed and pressure were such that if trying to replicate the surface via spinner to use a slightly rougher media than factory.  They also encouraged use of a haus machine or similar with diamond cutting media to fracture the particles before hitting with the pad.
Title: Re: Rock On
Post by: BigJohnC on January 31, 2014, 12:44:39 AM
Thanks to everyone who responded. As recommended I thought about the conditions where I bowl and since it is a fairly high friction surface I went with 4000 and it matched up great in league tonight. Gave me some miss room to either side of my target.