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Strokewiththelefthand

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The New Columbia 300
« on: February 04, 2005, 01:43:38 AM »
Over the past 2-3 years Columbia has been mass producing balls like the Wicked, Wild and Wow. However, it seems like Chris Barnes has fixed the problem. Columbia has done nothing but come out with a complete arsenal of great equipment. I am impressed. And now with the Overdrive coming out this month, I might be ready to put Columbia back in the top three. Are you guys as impressed with the Renaissance of Columbia and would you rate it tops on your list?
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Re: The New Columbia 300
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2005, 01:11:57 PM »
By the looks of the username of the originator of this post, I am thinking this post was a slam to Columbia, not the kudos he is talking about..

The bottom line is this, if Columbia equipment matches up to your game, there is nothing wrong with it. I think the backyard Bully is the best ball they have put out on the market in years..
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Re: The New Columbia 300
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2005, 06:10:28 PM »
and just what is wrong with the Wild???? Grrrrr..... I spent 100 bucks through my proshop to get it.  it was Pin-in and the proshop said that the only way to drill it to go long without a lot of hook would be to drill it to where it would act like a marshmellow.  so I said what the heck and let her do it.  2 300s and 3 800s latter I am so terribly dissapointed.  I mean geez, I spend 100 bucks and probably only win 1500 bucks in scolarship stuff.  what a horrible ball.  grrrrrrr.  . By the way, not taking offense to anything you said, just had to jump on you about using the wild as an example.
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Re: The New Columbia 300
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2005, 07:44:31 PM »
I have loved Columbia balls for a long time. I will always have 2+ in my stock ready to use, forever. I think they do have some of the best equipment and they can tweak coverstocks and cores with the best of them. (Yes, I really believe that!)

That said, they are leading the other ball companies (although Storm is a close 2nd) in producing ball that overlap and with virtually trivial differences in cores and covers. They still have many great balls (that can't be said too often), but it's as if they are never sure of what they are putting up for sale. It's as if they do not do enough proper testing. (You've got to use plain bowlers as well as pros; otherwise, you'll only sell to the market which does your testing.)

(Notice I used the phrase, "as if". I don't know, of course; it just seems like this is what's happening.)

With these "extra"balls, they may be spinning their wheels too often and not focusing on what's need or wanted most in the marketplace. It's "as if" they could be doing more and better, but are wasting time on the trivial.
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Re: The New Columbia 300
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2005, 01:12:41 AM »
I agree Charles, Columbia has one of the most complete lines in the business. True, some balls overlap, but I think that gives the consumer choices so they can stick with Columbia yet try a different ball. Two balls that overlap for one person can be very different for another person. This said, I firmly believe that there are no gaps in the line-up at this point in time. I can only see the line getting stronger and having more flexiblity within itself.
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Re: The New Columbia 300
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2005, 10:13:15 AM »
i look at the line up columbia has and i know i could put together 6-8 balls and not second guess what i am missing.

i prefer the E right now.
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charlest

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Re: The New Columbia 300
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2005, 03:15:07 PM »
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I agree Charles, Columbia has one of the most complete lines in the business. True, some balls overlap, but I think that gives the consumer choices so they can stick with Columbia yet try a different ball. Two balls that overlap for one person can be very different for another person. This said, I firmly believe that there are no gaps in the line-up at this point in time. I can only see the line getting stronger and having more flexiblity within itself.
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Jon,

If I am confused by Columbia's range of balls, I think the average consumer, if he/she were to examine that range, would be severely perplexed.

Yes, it's a complete (well, fairly), but the amount of overlap forme is mind-boggling and I am a fairly decent analyst of balls. Maybe it's easier for you who concentrates strictly on one line of balls.
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