Just thinking if i ever decide to pick up an older particle ball 2nd hand (say a Rock pearl or Rock Star) is there any way i can tell if the ball has 'died' just by feeling or looking at the condition of the surface or wont i know 'till i throw?
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Doc,

You've got me totally mystified here.
How can you compare a solid, matte finished particle ball with a highly polished resin pearl solely on the basis of a similar (or even the same) core??

I really did not understand. HONESTLY. AND I do want to understand.
Are you literally saying a Rock Star, which is not polished, and drilled the same as the Jekyll, will have the same ball path on a variety of lane conditions?

"The jekyl is a strong ball. If you match the finshes on either coverstock you will know what I'm talking about."

I'm not saying you did not compare them; I just find it hard to believe:
pearlized Super-Flex vs dull/matte Tec2 would have the same ball reaction?

You're sure you don't mean the Hyde, the dull solid, right?
If so, I am surprised and happy to obtain this bit of knowledge. Thanks.

Edited on 5/9/2003 9:05 PM

Charlest - The Rock Star and the Jekyll have the same ball reaction on the lane.  The Jekyll is underrated in my opinion and is a strong ball. The core designs of the Rock Star and the Jekyll is very similar except for a slight density change in the top of the weight block adding to the differential and flair potential if you will.  Since the coverstock is supposed to be weaker than the Tec2 this tends to compensate for the difference.  

When I stated that if you match the finishes meaning grit or polish level of the tec2/pearlized superflex then you can literally make the balls react on every condition from heavy oil to short light nearly dry.  

I am not talking about the Hyde because I believe that would burn up too quickly on the conditions I encounter and I won't test a ball like that unless I can get those heavy oil conditions on a more frequent basis. I was fortunate to get the lane guy oil up a different pattern for me the other day at practice.

Last night was sweepers and I bowled against one of the high average bowlers in the league a good 15 pins higher.  He has more revs than I but also has higher tilt in comparison. He also throws a little faster.  He was throwing a Lane#1 carbide bomb outside of me and I was throwing the Jekyll inside of him and yet we were using the same breakpoint. My Jekyll is factory finish with Elixir.  His Lane#1 was scotchbrited.  My ball is also drilled pin under bridge and cg kicked right 1/2 inch no weight hole.

Now I am not saying that the Jekyll is stronger than the Lane#1 Carbide Bomb because we have differnt bowing styles.  I got to throw his ball afterwards and had to get in deeper by about 5 boards of where I was playing.  

The lane conditions were semi tough second squad. At the end of the night he took first place and I took second in the sweepers. The difference was 15 pins.

imjouster - CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP, just kidding.  The Rock Star in my opinion was a very good ball but it tended to die out.  Plus I think the ball wasn't as good a core/cover combination.

 

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now it is true that the Jekyll is "supposed" to hook harder than the wild, and that the rockstar is supposedly just a little bit of a weaker version of the Rock.

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The Jekyll is much stronger than the Wild and the Rock Star is weaker than the Rock.

I hope all of this stuff makes sense and helps.

My purpose is not to try and be little you people out there making your opinions.  I just wish that you actually get to throw these balls to make the comparisons and then comment.  Core and cover combinations can be so deceiving.  And stating opinions not based and actual physical evidence can be so misleading.



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