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LuckyLefty

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Tour Boss... RED?
« on: September 20, 2004, 04:41:10 PM »
Just saw a guy with an old tour boss!  It was reddish??

He had an 837 this summer with it and he has so much area on the right on our local shot I couldn't believe it.

Looked like a solid but maybe a pearl sanded.

Any oldtime Columbia lovers know what this was?  Specs?  Diff?

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Phlap218

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Re: Tour Boss... RED?
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2004, 12:49:18 AM »
I had a Tour Boss Pearl. It was red with yellow engraving. One of my favourite balls back in the day. don't know anything about the coverstock or anything.

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Re: Tour Boss... RED?
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2004, 01:13:33 AM »
I had one and LOVED IT!!!!  It is a pearl version of the Superflex cover I do believe.  Mine had a 3 1/2 - 4 inch pin on it with the pin located about 2 inches above the bridge with the cg in the center of grip.  What I loved about mine, was that it got through heads really clean and made a nice, subtle arc at the breakpoint.  Mine had no flippiness whatsoever.  My first sanctioned 800 was with this ball (834) WITH the benefit of not 1, but 2 300 games.  Memory serves me correctly, this ball was released around 1996-97.  One ball it is comparable to is the Messenger Ti Pearl only that the Messenger was a little more around the corner.  They look very similar for the first 30-35 feet down the lane, but the difference is the Messenger's breakpoint is a little more defined and stronger, but both balls hit the pins extremely well.  Definitely one of my favorites.
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TWOHAND834

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Re: Tour Boss... RED?
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2004, 01:53:37 AM »
Bruns Lefty,

That was not the same ball.  That was a second version of the original hence the name Ti Boss II.  This ball was, in my opinion, a little more overall hook than the Messenger Ti Pearl.  This is also stronger than the original Tour Boss.  It is definitely earlier and yet more continuous around the corner than the Tour Boss.  This may sound like an oxymoron.  BUT, the Tour Boss to me was a controllable pearl.  MOST bowlers associate pearl reactives as being skid/flip to an extent, but the original Tour Boss was not that at all.  Some of you might have experienced otherwise, but mine had length AND control.  It was a beautiful thing.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Tour Boss... RED?
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2004, 10:18:12 AM »
I swear it is a solid.  But red and he said tour boss.

I think they had one on bowlingball reviews as an REd LE with no specs.

I will double check next monday?

Anyone know this red SOLID?

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Re: Tour Boss... RED?
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2004, 03:39:02 PM »
I'm thinking Ti Boss II Red LE

See list here, not much shown correctly as this ball looks like red solid.
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=545


Anyone know what the diff numbers on these balls were.

Do I see the game core there with a Ti center.  Or do I mean the Chaos core.
Or is that the Spirit???

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Luckylefty

Edited on 9/21/2004 3:32 PM
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Re: Tour Boss... RED?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2004, 09:16:44 PM »
Just revisited lanes and found that yes!

It was a Red Pearl Tour Boss just dulled down from use.

A lot of guys use these balls dull around here.

Anyone have one in good shape in 15 and not use it!

Just want to see if it works as good on left as on right in this usually righty friendly house.

Want to sell yours?

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Re: Tour Boss... RED?
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2004, 12:48:20 AM »
Want to sell one?

Hey just found an old Pit boss drill sheet.

Since the columbia site and www.bowlingballreviews.com
don't have rg and diff I thought I'd give you what I found.

Boss.....rg = 2.49     .......diff = .039
Tour Boss(blue) rg = 2.51  ........diff = .035
Tour Boss pearl(red) rg = 2.52 diff = .047(like Charlest said)
Just like Crunchtime
Pit Boss rg = 2.49 diff = .47

I assume these were all the specs for 16 pounders.  I usually find Columbia RG's go up quite a bit for 15s.

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Luckylefty
PS I though different diff for Tour Boss solid and pearl was interesting as core shape looks virtually the same.
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Re: Tour Boss... RED?
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2004, 11:57:51 PM »
Got one coming and it's LEFTY!

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PS looking forward to seeing if this one works as well in our house on the tough left as it does for a spraying but carrying righty friend of mine!  Otherwise I'm claimin foul!  Oooops I already have!
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Re: Tour Boss... RED?
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2004, 01:26:36 AM »
Well got it.  

Came from one of our members had been sittin in closet or garage for 3 or 4 years only 10 games.

Just like I thought doesn't really look very pearly almost a solid.

Took this ball our hit with alcohol and it cleanned up nice.  Then drilled the lady's thumb hole out and drilled mine.  However span was very short for me.

Anyway I'm in a hurry throwing 5 balls and rushing somewhere else.  First two five ball games are near 180 with opens in 10th.

Guy says to me, "that's not bad for this house".  ME "Pardon me?"

Anyway I take out tour boss red pearl and go spare miss, 4 bagger, big 4, 4 bagger!!!

Ball is exactly as described.  An uncommonly smooth pearl.  Not one bit of snap.  Almost like my Crimson Red sledgehammer except this closes with it's 4 X 5 drilling a little harder in the hole than my Control drilled Sledgehammer.

I almost say this ball acts like a pearl in teh fronts ans then it acks like a solid in the back.

I attribute the slow smooth motion of this ball to what I would call a lazy core or midlane core.  Wide inthe center coupled with a strong coverstock.

This ball gets back to the hole but is very smooth in getting there.

As long as getting it drilled to mY span doesn't screw this baby up, I'm convinced I will get it up to speed I can't wait to really lay down the skinny.

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Luckylefty
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Re: Tour Boss... RED?
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2004, 02:20:55 PM »
This is a great ball for today's over under synthetics!!

Just so people see this.  I want another one?

Anyone have one???  

Also saw an old pro throwing a blue surge their the other day with a low pin looping from inside the oil line out and back!

Just to show the type of shot!  Slow cores versus flip cores look like the rage!

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Luckylefty
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Re: Tour Boss... RED?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2004, 09:36:09 AM »
Hey I want that ball!

Well it is a pearl.  It is very similar when drilled stacked to a used Sledgehammer which has shined up with use to an 800 shiny look.  Just a touch cleaner thru heads.

So I would say it can handle medium to lighter.  This is the pearl version.

Very smooth and good hit!

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Luckylefty
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Re: Tour Boss... RED?
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2004, 10:16:23 AM »
aaaaaaarrrrggghhhhhhh!!!

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Re: Tour Boss... RED?
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2004, 10:36:49 AM »
I've got the original Boss Pearl NIB!