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onlybowling

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Trooper -VS- Slate Blue Gargoyle
« on: July 07, 2005, 01:51:09 AM »
I am wanting a urethane ball for very light to dry.  No one in my area uses one.  Can anyone compare these two?

I am not sure of my pap.  1st ball track is generally 2" off of thumb.  ball speed 17 to 18.  I think my rev rate is on the low side of medium.

Thank you for your help!
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BowlerKidR

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Re: Trooper -VS- Slate Blue Gargoyle
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2005, 10:08:44 AM »
Well...both of these bals are made for light to toast conditions. The real difference is that the Slate Blue Gargoil has a REAL core rather then the Trooper which has a NON-REAL core. What i mean by this is just that the Trooper will not hit as well and will not carry as well as the Slate Blue due to having less power and torque to the pins. This is just my experience here, and it might be different from someone elses. Another thing i noticed is that the slate blue will flare more than the Trooper and this might make it a stronger ball.
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Re: Trooper -VS- Slate Blue Gargoyle
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2005, 10:40:46 AM »
I don't have the trooper but have a couple of friends who do. BowlerkidR is right it doesn't flare much but, it depends on the person. Its all control and it is good for dry lanes and corners. If it gets any heavier than dry/light you might have a problem with carry and some funky leaves. With enough hand though its cool. Hope that helps.

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Re: Trooper -VS- Slate Blue Gargoyle
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2005, 10:44:01 AM »
Thank you johndoe & BowlerKidR for your help.  I don't thnk a little extra at the pin deck is a bad thing.  A Slate Blue will be coming to my house.

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Re: Trooper -VS- Slate Blue Gargoyle
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2005, 02:53:22 PM »
Johndoe,

Both same coverstock??
Please look again.

BowlerKidR.

While many people refer to the Trooper's type of core as a pancake type, nothing could be further from the truth. Both it, and balls like the Power Groove and the Big Hit series are ONLY based on the pancake core. Those flip blocks have the potential, and it's an enormous potential! to make such balls flare 5-6" or more. That is hardly the non-dynamic pancake core's abilities.

I have both and have compared them quite a bit. Most of the Trooper (which is actually half solid and half pearl, compared to the Slate Blue G's 100% pearlized) control is due to that dull, about 600 grit coverstock. I wondered about that, and until I polished it, solely in order to get more length. Then, wonder of wonders, it hook a lot more. (Polishing took a lot of effort.)

Both balls are very much control balls. Both need oil to get thru the heads, somewhat less than most resin balls, but they are still NOT dry lanes balls. My Sonic-X original will get thru dry-ish heads better than the Slate Blue or the Trooper.

For whatever reason  (I am not sure it is the core; I strongly suspect it is the Cover AND the Core) the Slate Blue does seem to hit harder and perform better as a strike ball than the Trooper. I use the SBG as my spare ball on everything; use it as a strike on light to light+ (not medium-light) oil patterns.

Johndoe and BowlerKidR, I think you had the right ball choice but for the wrong reasons.
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Re: Trooper -VS- Slate Blue Gargoyle
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2005, 01:20:53 PM »
BigHorhn & Charlest- Thank you for your sharing your experience with these balls.

I may be looking at the Sonic series also...Matching up on drier conditions can be very challenging.
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Edited on 7/9/2005 1:16 PM