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Danes07

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Advice from Columbia Staffers
« on: October 23, 2006, 07:33:44 PM »
I'm seeking advice from Columbia staffers and guys who thow mostly columbia stuff.  I want to get a ball that I can drill to have a nice pop on the backend on dry lanes, but without having to go to the scout series.  I'm looking for versatility.  What I want to know, is if I get a Wrath with about a 3" pin and 3oz of Top Weight, would drilling it negative get the ball to lay off on the backend and give me a nice pop on drier lanes.

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J_L_B

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Re: Advice from Columbia Staffers
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2006, 04:24:13 AM »
I'm confused that you would want the ball to lay off ,yet have a nice pop on the backend.  

The Jinx is a better choice for drier lanes, while the Wrath has nice length and a strong backend, it would want to hook a bit too much unless it were drilled weak and highly polished.
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Danes07

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Re: Advice from Columbia Staffers
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2006, 10:57:40 AM »
Major_Action

Sorry If I confused ya, but thanks anyways for responding.  What I meant was that I wanted a ball that would lay off, but not lose any carrying power.  Luckily I didn't confuse you too much.  I'm thinking of going with the wrath, drilled either negative or very weak, and then polishing the hell out of it.

Thanks for responding
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BOA_ELF

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Re: Advice from Columbia Staffers
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2006, 08:47:02 AM »
Danes
As I am not a staffer but very loyal Columbia thrower, I needed something very similar. I took a U-turn pearl with a 3 in. pin and had it drilled pin under middle finger(lefty) putting the pin negative.  with the CG positive 1 1/2 in off center line.  with a small weight hole placed 3 1/2 inches over from midline and slightly down.  This gave me good length and still a solid backend but not snappy off the dry.  This drilled has turned into a great drilling for drier lanes for me.  


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Gene J Kanak

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Re: Advice from Columbia Staffers
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2006, 09:13:47 AM »
Danes07,

I wish you luck with whatever you choose, but I caution you. Many people have stated, and I agree, that it is not wise to take an aggressive ball and t make it less aggressive. You'd be better off picking up something like a Scout. You know, something that's actually been designed for the conditions of which you speak. I'm not saying that what you're suggesting can't be done. But from my experience, and it seems to have been the same for others, it just seems wiser to use what was intended, rather than weakening a stronger piece of gear. If you're worried about hitting power out of the Scouts, don't. I have a urethane Hi-Flare, and that ball hits a ton, provided I throw it on the right conditions. The Scout core is plenty strong. Plus, the price is great. Again, I hope you succeed with whatever measure you choose to take, but if it were me, I'd go with the Scout.
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Re: Advice from Columbia Staffers
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2006, 02:35:42 PM »
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Danes07,

I wish you luck with whatever you choose, but I caution you. Many people have stated, and I agree, that it is not wise to take an aggressive ball and t make it less aggressive. You'd be better off picking up something like a Scout. You know, something that's actually been designed for the conditions of which you speak. I'm not saying that what you're suggesting can't be done. But from my experience, and it seems to have been the same for others, it just seems wiser to use what was intended, rather than weakening a stronger piece of gear. If you're worried about hitting power out of the Scouts, don't. I have a urethane Hi-Flare, and that ball hits a ton, provided I throw it on the right conditions. The Scout core is plenty strong. Plus, the price is great. Again, I hope you succeed with whatever measure you choose to take, but if it were me, I'd go with the Scout.
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I couldn't disagree more.  Being a high-tracker, I can't use several drillings that I like for dry lanes with low end balls like the Scout.  The only way I could throw a Scout (even hi-flare) with the pin under my middle finger is if I pitched the weight hole to really increase track flare.  I do have an Inferno drilled with the pin under my middle finger (6" from PAP) and a small weight hole 7" from the center of my span.  It remains one of my best matchups to dry lanes, very good length with an arcing backend and plenty of hitting power.
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Danes07

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Re: Advice from Columbia Staffers
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2006, 10:50:44 AM »
Everyone,
Thanks for you're contributions!!! Right now, I'm consulting with a local pro who I take lessons with.  We are looking at several different, and I mean like 10 different balls.  Hopefully he and I will narrow that list down to 2 or 3 and then I can see which one will be easiest for me to get ahold of withouth paying an arm and a leg.  I'll be sure to let you guys know what we decide on.
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Re: Advice from Columbia Staffers
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2006, 05:54:33 PM »
i think that ur idea is right with either drilling a jynx or a wraith the wraith had alot of pop on the back of the lane but taking it negative would help that. the jynx would be smooth out of the box compared to the wraith. if u have any other questions just message me

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