Yes, after a few games with it, I definitely had some nasty over/under with this ball in the OOB condition where if you get it right early it goes brooklyn and if you play too tight, it doesn't make the corner leaving 2-8-10s, buckets, etc. The surface responds to surface changes rather well, I changed the surface to 2000 abralon + Magic Shine polish which improved the reaction because it bleeds energy a little sooner which softens the backend reaction a bit. But I agree with tenpin477, this ball is designed to be polished and to be a ball for the "great wall of china" shots out there where you send it right and watch it come back. If you want a ball that starts up sooner and has more continuation, get a Resurgence.