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General Category => Coverstock Preparation => Topic started by: JohnN on January 26, 2017, 05:18:40 PM
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How do you bring a ball to 1500 polished ? Will be using a spinner and Powerhouse Factory polish.
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Well if you're talking about Storm's 1500 polished finish, they recommend taking the ball to 4000 and then applying their Step 2 compound.
I've had good success duplicating it by taking a ball to 4000 and then using Ultimate's Quik Kut Polish. The Quik Kut actually states it takes the ball to a 500 polished finish.
I never had success duplicating box surface for Storm/Roto using powerhouse factory polish and I tried many different steps. Maybe someone else will chime in that has been closer with it
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I never had success duplicating box surface for Storm/Roto using powerhouse factory polish and I tried many different steps. Maybe someone else will chime in that has been closer with it
I'm kind of surprised at this. Storm's "1500 grit polished" has always seemed to me to be equivalent (not identical) to a very high gloss polish over a 2000 - 3000 grit sanding. I have often achieved "similar" results by sanding to 2000 grit and using a high abrasive polish, like Storm's own Xtra Shine. It almost seems like a 4000 grit + polish finish, which should only be used when the lanes are VERY dry or the coverstock itself is VERY strong.
My opinion is that this "polish" is often a source of extreme over/under reaction on even blended oil patterns. It is easily cured by re-sanding with 1000, 1500 or 2000 grit sanding and then applying a light to medium polish with a more more "normal" (whatever normal might be. :) ) polish like Powerhouse Factory Finish or Lane Masters polish or ever Reacta Shine.
In any case, "1500 grit polished" is not a polish finish that you want to use very often, unless you have very slow ball speed or you are facing very dry conditions.
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I have had close results using this method..........
sand with 500 grit abralon, all 4sides 30 seconds each, then 1000 abralon all 4 sides for 15 seconds each and then polish with Powerhouse Factory Finish using about a quarter sized drop of polish on each side, and polish 2 sides for 30 - 40 seconds each side.
Doesn't have the "over/under" reaction due to the rougher grit below the polish in my opinion.
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I never had success duplicating box surface for Storm/Roto using powerhouse factory polish and I tried many different steps. Maybe someone else will chime in that has been closer with it
I'm kind of surprised at this. Storm's "1500 grit polished" has always seemed to me to be equivalent (not identical) to a very high gloss polish over a 2000 - 3000 grit sanding. I have often achieved "similar" results by sanding to 2000 grit and using a high abrasive polish, like Storm's own Xtra Shine. It almost seems like a 4000 grit + polish finish, which should only be used when the lanes are VERY dry or the coverstock itself is VERY strong.
My opinion is that this "polish" is often a source of extreme over/under reaction on even blended oil patterns. It is easily cured by re-sanding with 1000, 1500 or 2000 grit sanding and then applying a light to medium polish with a more more "normal" (whatever normal might be. :) ) polish like Powerhouse Factory Finish or Lane Masters polish or ever Reacta Shine.
In any case, "1500 grit polished" is not a polish finish that you want to use very often, unless you have very slow ball speed or you are facing very dry conditions.
Have you tried Rough Buff, Royal Compound, and now Crown Factory Compound? I was always (still am) a huge fan of those products.
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Storm calls it 1500 factory finish. Do believe its the finish on most pearl balls .
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I never had success duplicating box surface for Storm/Roto using powerhouse factory polish and I tried many different steps. Maybe someone else will chime in that has been closer with it
I'm kind of surprised at this. Storm's "1500 grit polished" has always seemed to me to be equivalent (not identical) to a very high gloss polish over a 2000 - 3000 grit sanding. I have often achieved "similar" results by sanding to 2000 grit and using a high abrasive polish, like Storm's own Xtra Shine. It almost seems like a 4000 grit + polish finish, which should only be used when the lanes are VERY dry or the coverstock itself is VERY strong.
My opinion is that this "polish" is often a source of extreme over/under reaction on even blended oil patterns. It is easily cured by re-sanding with 1000, 1500 or 2000 grit sanding and then applying a light to medium polish with a more more "normal" (whatever normal might be. :) ) polish like Powerhouse Factory Finish or Lane Masters polish or ever Reacta Shine.
In any case, "1500 grit polished" is not a polish finish that you want to use very often, unless you have very slow ball speed or you are facing very dry conditions.
Have you tried Rough Buff, Royal Compound, and now Crown Factory Compound? I was always (still am) a huge fan of those products.
Yes.
They're amazingly variable with so much depending on the person applying and spinning.
Normally, and at the factory, 500 grit + Rough Buff/Royal Compound, with medium amounts and light to medium pressure for a "short" while, produces a finish in the 3000-3500 grit range. Further pressure and spinning can produce the equivalent of a 4000 - 4500 grit finish.
Using a base of 1000 grit with medium amounts and medium pressure and medium duration spinning can produce a shine or the equivalent of a polished finish, with some "grab" provided by the underlying 1000 grit.
Once you get up to 1500 grit base sanding + an application of RB/RC, you get more and more of a high gloss shine, equivalent to a high gloss polish.
That said,
I do use "500 grit + RB/RC" every once in a while, but I prefer the precision of 500/2500/3000 or 1000/2000/4000 strictly via abrasive pads.
If I want a polished finish, I use whatever grit I want for a base and then apply the polish. That could be anything from 500 grit + a light polish to as much as 1000/2000/4000 + a heavy dose of polish.
But that's just me.
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Storm calls it 1500 factory finish. Do believe its the finish on most pearl balls .
It's their only finish for polished balls. Unless you count the Mix or Ice.
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1500-grit Polished:
1. 500-grit Abralon® - Sand for 30 seconds on all four sides with firm pressure
2. 1000-grit Abralon – Sand for 20 seconds on all four sides with light pressure
3. 2000-grit Abralon – Sand for 20 seconds on all four sides with light pressure
4. Storm Reacta Shineâ„¢ - Polish for 15 seconds on all four sides with light pressure
Roto Grip® recommends using the suggested cleaner/polish daily. In addition, Roto Grip also
recommends touching up the surface with only the final step every 20 games and resurfacing
completely every 60-80 games
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