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Uncle Meat PT 2

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2000 to 4000
« on: November 09, 2012, 05:06:54 PM »
Hey all,got a primal impulse that is at 2000 abralon,is too much ball at 2 houses i bowl at. wanting to know if taking up to 4000 abralon to smooth out reaction on this ball.Let me know.
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tommyboy74

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Re: 2000 to 4000
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2012, 05:11:26 PM »
Actually 2000 would normally be smoother than 4000.  Here is my experience on my Rogue Cell as an example.

Going 500 then 4000, the ball had more length and was more angular in the back.  Then, when I went 500 then 2000, the ball was earlier, reading more of the midlane and provided  an arc reaction instead of a hockey stick.

What kinds of conditions are you running into with the Primal?
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ccrider

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Re: 2000 to 4000
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2012, 05:36:40 PM »
If I am looking for smoother reaction, I generally go 500/1000 and then step up to two and then 4k if needed.

kidlost2000

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Re: 2000 to 4000
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2012, 06:55:52 PM »
Keep in mind that after 3 or so games the surface in the track area will change to smoother or rougher depending on the condition.

Is the ball too jumpy off friction? Or just too much hook over all even in the oil?
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charlest

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Re: 2000 to 4000
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2012, 07:27:00 PM »
Uncle Meat,

The Primal Impulse's stock surface is 2000 grit + polish!!

You said "2000 grit". Does that mean you sanded it to 2000 grit and left it dull or is it still at 2000+polish???

2000 grit will usually hook earlier and more than 4000 grit. It also needs more oil to perform properly.

4000 grit will go longer and hook less overall but requires less oil also.
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Uncle Meat PT 2

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Re: 2000 to 4000
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2012, 11:19:24 PM »
The Primal is still in box finish,although I have used motiv's gel polish. The reaction is a big jump off the friction,and both houses are what I would call pretty dry,considering that both were pretty close to a medium condition last year.
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kidlost2000

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Re: 2000 to 4000
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2012, 11:39:30 PM »
Polish will typically do that. Try the 4000 grit finish.
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tommyboy74

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Re: 2000 to 4000
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 11:50:28 PM »
You could also try something like Snake Oil or Delayed Reaction too.
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charlest

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Re: 2000 to 4000
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2012, 09:18:50 AM »
The Primal is still in box finish,although I have used motiv's gel polish. The reaction is a big jump off the friction,and both houses are what I would call pretty dry,considering that both were pretty close to a medium condition last year.

Then the first thing I would do depends on how jumpy the ball is.
1. If it' s just slightly jumpy,  try to remove some of the shine by hand with a damp/wet 4000 grit pad or a light grey Scotch-Brite pad.
2. If it's very jumpy, go all the way and resurface the ball to a 4000 grit and leave it matte or dull. DO this by first bringing it to true 2000 grit, then apply the 4000 grit pad.

If by some chance it's still too jumpy at 4000 grit, take it to the next rougher step, either 2000 or 3000 grit. Keep in mind that, while the 4000 grit should handle the same amount of oil as the polished surface, it will be smoother (hook slightly earlier, with less backend). Once you go to 2000 or 3000 grit matte/dull, unless you have firm or higher ball speed, the ball will now require slightly more oil and/or you'll need to move deeper to retain kinetic energy.
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