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Title: 220 grit
Post by: Jonas Winslo on December 03, 2013, 04:13:48 PM
I currently bowl on old wood lanes with no backend reaction.  The lanes are stripped on Monday and Thursday.  I bowl on Tuesday and Wednesday.  The front part of the lane are oiled to a med/heavy condition with the carry down left from Monday's league and open play.  I can't get my ball to make a move down the lane. It just slides down the lane.  Would sanding a ball down to 220 get me any reaction or would it just burn up too soon and hit weak.  I played straight up 5 tonight with a Monster Bruiser sanded down to 400 with some success.  I'm just looking for a little swing room, not skip-snap.
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: jhutch769 on December 03, 2013, 05:07:13 PM
What's the worst that can happen?  Trial and error, learn and grow..
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: northface28 on December 03, 2013, 05:12:44 PM
Swing room kind of coincides with skid snap. 220 is good to open something up but you won't stay with it longer than half a game.
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: milorafferty on December 03, 2013, 07:05:51 PM
Swing room kind of coincides with skid snap. 220 is good to open something up but you won't stay with it longer than half a game.

And you will be hated by everyone else on your pair...  ;D
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: Impending Doom on December 03, 2013, 09:02:29 PM
On a totally different topic, why is Bulldozer's picture where your picture should be...?
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: storm22 on December 03, 2013, 09:13:38 PM
On a totally different topic, why is Bulldozer's picture where your picture should be...?

LOL I thought it was billdozer asking the question.  LMAO!!!
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: tommyboy74 on December 03, 2013, 10:18:56 PM
Swing room kind of coincides with skid snap. 220 is good to open something up but you won't stay with it longer than half a game.

And you will be hated by everyone else on your pair...  ;D

I was going to say that you may catch a little heat from some others using 220 grit.  I've even caught a little sometimes when I've used 500 grit.

More than likely, 220 grit as some others have mentioned will probably only get used with practice or up to half a game.  But, it can quickly break down a pattern if you're on the flood, which is not always a bad thing.
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: billdozer on December 03, 2013, 10:38:47 PM
On a totally different topic, why is Bulldozer's picture where your picture should be...?

Yeah wtf? Very creepy its totally not me but I feel violated haha

But seriously please change it!
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: billdozer on December 03, 2013, 10:42:30 PM
On a totally different topic, why is Bulldozer's picture where your picture should be...?

LOL I thought it was billdozer asking the question.  LMAO!!!

I know what 220 would do, not that I wouldn't EVER see such a condition to warrant a ball with gravel glued to it...BUT I actually throw it ~15 mph...anything hooks at any surface! With my game its all about "control," everything over hooks, always got a ton of angle...gotta preserve energy. ..otherwise im mr. Doink!
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: Rightycomplex on December 03, 2013, 11:53:45 PM
On a totally different topic, why is Bulldozer's picture where your picture should be...?

Yeah wtf? Very creepy its totally not me but I feel violated haha

But seriously please change it!

Awwww, Bill has a fanboy... We shall call him,...... Lil' Bill. LOL!
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: Rightycomplex on December 03, 2013, 11:54:36 PM
It wouldn't be so creepy if it wasn't your actua pic....
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: billdozer on December 04, 2013, 12:08:11 AM
Yeah but I do participate in transactions, try to give advice (emphasis on try) on here...Im me! I can't do that with a cartoon picture lol..
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: NHLfan88 on December 04, 2013, 09:00:32 AM
There is no house shot in the world that would require you to throw a ball with 220 grit.  If i was bowling league with you and you tried it, i would take it off the rack. There has to be something else you can do.
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on December 04, 2013, 09:26:24 AM
I tend to agree that anything with 220 is probably not advisable.  When you add surface, such as 220, you will get the ball to read the mid-lane.  What you will also get is an extremely slow reaction on the last 20 feet or so. 

Unless you throw it 20 mph, and need the surface, most of us are better off with something that has a quicker response on the back end of the lane.  Personally, there is no way I could get something with that much surface to carry anything...
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: lifted rillo on December 04, 2013, 10:59:45 AM
If you're throwing on old wood, your ball is burning up. Especially at 400. Try taking the surface UP to something smooth so it will keep some energy to turn on the back-end. I bowled on wood for a while before they upgraded to synthetics. I was using a Brunswick Punisher with HIGH polish. Wasn't very heavy handed then either, but I was swinging quite a bit. Try going up before you go down in grit. That's my opinion anyway.
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: billdozer on December 04, 2013, 01:19:53 PM
My buddy had 360 on a amf mega recovery...it was a practice til 5th frame ball. 
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: NHLfan88 on December 04, 2013, 01:27:34 PM
and if it was anything other than a mixed league or a beer league  i would ask him not to throw it.
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: Dave81644 on December 04, 2013, 05:34:22 PM
220 grit is way to low as others have mentioned
that will remove all the oil in that area from the heads to 20 feet
will be a miserable shot with all that friction in the heads
try 500 dull with polish over it
I bet you will see an arcing motion with it
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: ccrider on December 04, 2013, 06:27:32 PM
I am on my way to bowl on 40 year old wood. The only time I see this problem is when the oil machine is broke.

Couple of weeks ago it oiled all the way to the pin deck. Nothing would hook until the track got a little burn by the third game. We had to toss it straight at the pocket.

If the backend is clean, your ball will respond to the friction once it gets to the dry. Try 500 no polish first.  There is no way that it will not move once it gets to the dry.

Frankly, I don't put much weight into people complaining about the ball that I am throwing on a THS. Sure. I burnt up your line. That's why you bowled like crap. All my fault. ;)
Title: Re: 220 grit
Post by: larry mc on December 04, 2013, 09:25:35 PM
ill throw any grit i feel like throwing