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r534me

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What's the equilvalent of Storm Step Two finishing compound?
« on: February 03, 2010, 02:00:44 AM »
I am trying to refinish a couple of older balls to near OOB reaction.  Is the Brunswick stuff similar?
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Re: What's the equilvalent of Storm Step Two finishing compound?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 01:54:11 PM »

Their Rough Buff compound seems very similar to me.


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r534me

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Re: What's the equilvalent of Storm Step Two finishing compound?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2010, 08:16:19 AM »
going to check my local brunswick pro staff and see if I can order some.

thanks.
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Re: What's the equilvalent of Storm Step Two finishing compound?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 06:31:00 PM »
If you can't acquire Ruff Buff, I have used red rubbing compound to get very close. It's available in any auto parts store.
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Re: What's the equilvalent of Storm Step Two finishing compound?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 06:49:39 PM »
why something the same as why not just step 2??
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r534me

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Re: What's the equilvalent of Storm Step Two finishing compound?
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2010, 11:42:49 PM »
I checked with my driller and step 2 only comes in the big bottles versus smaller bottles of ruff buff.  However, I found out that ruff buff is rougher than step 2, and is more expensive based on equivalent sizes.
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Re: What's the equilvalent of Storm Step Two finishing compound?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2010, 11:47:11 PM »
The closest to Storm's OOB without Step 2 is Valentino's Resurrection/Snake Oil combination.  My Gravity Shift picked up a bit sooner with this as my surface preparation compared to the OOB surface.  

Other than that, I really haven't found anything similar to Step 2.  The best I would suggest would be use an abrasive polish like the Rough Buff or Ebonite's Factory Finish, and then put a lengthening agent on top of that, like Magic Shine or similar.
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Re: What's the equilvalent of Storm Step Two finishing compound?
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2010, 11:50:45 PM »
I think that the Brunswick Rough Buff (red bottle) would be the one you are looking for.  I hope that you find success in your search.
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r534me

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Re: What's the equilvalent of Storm Step Two finishing compound?
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2010, 03:22:15 AM »
I do have a twisted fury that I like in certain situations and I need ruff buff for it.  It works quite well when the backends are flying.
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Re: What's the equilvalent of Storm Step Two finishing compound?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2010, 03:24:25 AM »
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If you can't acquire Ruff Buff, I have used red rubbing compound to get very close. It's available in any auto parts store.


Is that a liquid or a paste.  I suspect a paste but just checking.
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r534me

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Re: What's the equilvalent of Storm Step Two finishing compound?
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2010, 04:04:11 AM »
One more question, will using a 1k abralon pad and using motiv polish get the finish close to the 1500 grit polish oob for storm balls?
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Re: What's the equilvalent of Storm Step Two finishing compound?
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2010, 06:35:13 AM »
the easiest way to get close to 1500 grit polished is lt grey scotchbrite followed by non abrasive polish.

that will get you to 1500 to 1600 grit polished and works every time... where a compound can be hard to repeat.
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Re: What's the equilvalent of Storm Step Two finishing compound?
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2010, 06:52:20 AM »
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One more question, will using a 1k abralon pad and using motiv polish get the finish close to the 1500 grit polish oob for storm balls?


Yes, it "SHOULD". icewall''s procedure is also safe, as near as I can tell. (I say "SHOULD" because it depends on how well you apply the P1000 grit abrasive and how well you apply the Motiv Gel polish, which is also very good. There is a wide range of how well you can do this to achieve "1500 grit polished", but I''ve seen many people go overboard and underboard with both abrasives and polish. Common sense and keeping it simple are the best virtues here.)

Rough Buff is not close to Storm''s Step 2 because RB does not contain polish. Unless you start off with a fairly fine grit level, like P2000 or P4000, RB is not likely to add the shine that Storm''s does. Track''s Clean and Sheen is probably closer, as it too has a tiny bit of polish in it.  All 3 have a pretty strong abrasive. Very hard to gauge if one is more abrasive than the other, without a lot of comparative testing. With these compounds it''s easier to find one that does the job you need/want.

Automotive rubbing compound is also good. Just make sure it says it contains NO silicones and no wax. They are an abrasive + a polish. Some come in paste form, some come as a thick liquid. All bowling specific compounds come as a thick liquid. 3M''s rubbing compounds usually come in a plastic bottle with a grit level on it (1500, 2000, 3000 etc.). That grit level is usually a maximum number, expressed as the smallest scratch it will remove from a "paint job".

The bottom line from my point of view is not how well it can copy the out-of-the-box ball reaction (notice I didn''t say surface), but how well you can get the ball reaction you need, not want.
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Re: What's the equilvalent of Storm Step Two finishing compound?
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2010, 08:24:33 AM »
Iceman and Charlest, thanks for the replies.  I've actually changed the surface on two out of four balls that are 1500 grit polished and I wanted to bring them back to that just to see what they look like.  My t-road pearl is at 4k with Motiv and my shift is a 2k with Motiv.  I think the shift is the one I would like the most to get back to grit polish after I extract the oil out of it.  Plus, I have a rapid fire solid I plan on playing with.  

I guess I'll cruise on down to the supply store and pick up a few pads to try out.
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