Author Topic: 500-1000-2000 and then polish (Read 9112 times)

Dave81644 · « **on:** May 21, 2012, 05:59:31 PM »

I recently heard about this from a reputable source
We are on pba sport patterns and the reasoning behind this is:
- dull surface alone becomes oil soaked and lane shine in 4 or 5 shots
- dull with polish stays consistent throughout the night

thoughts?

I did try it and the results are mixed

BallReviews-Removed0385 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2012, 08:20:52 PM »

Too many steps before the polish in my opinion for PBA volumes. I'd go 500 then polish, or 500 then 2000 depending on which pattern.

Each abrasive step (somewhat) smooths out what the previous step did, so by going directly from 500 to the finish step you will have a better shot at the ball actually reading the mid-lane. Spend a more time on the base grit, while limiting your finishing grit to 15-25 seconds per side for best results. Good luck.

Dave81644 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 22, 2012, 06:34:55 AM »

Let me clarify

500 - then polish or
1000 - then polish or
2000 - then polish

the 1000 and polish seemed to read the lane and the ball seemed to stay consistent, no lane shine and it didnt seem to burn up the heads like a 1000 dull should

the 2000 and polish had those particular pieces just skate, should have done 1000 + polish

the 500 + polish was a weaker piece and it would not read the lane at all
We are on the Carmin Salvino pattern which is an easier, but longer pattern

BallReviews-Removed0385 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 22, 2012, 09:33:49 AM »

Dave81644, thanks for the clarification. Your findings seem to match my experience in general.

Regarding the dull surface soaking oil, yes, they do, but oil on the ball cover is not the same as polish (as you know). Polishes tend to clog the pores to varying degrees, which creates skid and eventually more snap on the back end. While a ball finished at 2000, or even 4000 without polish will tend to read the pattern more accurately. I find with heavier or longer patterns I like to "blend" out reaction both side to side and front to back so I lean towards the non-polished finish for my game.

Neither side of the coin is necessarily "better", but the one that matches with your game and oil pattern should be used. Keep one ball dull, one shiny, and a spare ball with you to keep your options open. Best of luck.

charlest · « **Reply #4 on:** May 22, 2012, 04:46:15 PM »

Quote from: Dave81644 on May 22, 2012, 06:34:55 AM

Let me clarify

500 - then polish or
1000 - then polish or
2000 - then polish

the 1000 and polish seemed to read the lane and the ball seemed to stay consistent, no lane shine and it didnt seem to burn up the heads like a 1000 dull should

the 2000 and polish had those particular pieces just skate, should have done 1000 + polish

the 500 + polish was a weaker piece and it would not read the lane at all
We are on the Carmin Salvino pattern which is an easier, but longer pattern

DAve,

Please keep in mind that ALL polishes are, to a greater or lesser extent, abrasive. That is, once you apply polish to a 1000 grit ball, it is no longer 1000 grit. It depends on how much polish you apply, how hard you press and for how long you you spin it while applying pressure and polish. This is why grit level specifications on polish bottles are whimsical at best, misleading and erroneous at worst. In general, applying polish with average amounts of the above factors on a 2000 grit surface, will, in general, wind up in the 4000 - 5000 grit range. Polish applied over a 4000 grit surface may wind up around 6000 grit. These are just generalizations. I believe Mo Pinel, a non-advocate of polish, indicated that polish over a 500 - 1000 grit ball will be the equivalent of roughly 4000 grit matte or dull.

SInce the balls are at a much finer grit level, it is easy to see why they don't burn up as easily, but they will susceptible to carrydown, much more so than the dull ball.

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