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Title: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: KingCranker on February 25, 2009, 10:12:29 PM
I have several balls thats finished at 1500 then polished and now I have the Abralon pads what grit in Abralon is closest to 1500 grit in sandpaper or is there??

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Paco


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Title: Re: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: Burak Natal on February 26, 2009, 12:38:38 PM
4000 Abralon would be close
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Title: Re: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: KingCranker on February 26, 2009, 12:49:54 PM
thats what I have it at just seems like it goes wayyy longer at 4000 Abralon,than it did at 1500.

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Title: Re: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: Burak Natal on February 26, 2009, 12:55:35 PM
Fresh 4000 Abralon is closest. If you don't feel that way, try fresh 2000..
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Title: Re: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: Cobalt Bomb on February 26, 2009, 03:31:33 PM
What brand of ball is it? Many brands say "1500 polished" which loosely refers to the final grit of the polish and not the underlying grit prior to polish. Underlying grit for most of those is 600 grit sandpaper or about 1000 abralon.
Title: Re: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: Big Jake on February 27, 2009, 02:16:56 PM
quote:
1500 US grit is probably between 2000 and 4000 Abralon.
however, thats before using any polish which you have yet to specify.
-bill  


Sorry for the confusion on my part but are you saying that "1500 US grit" and by that are you saying wet/dry sandpaper would put the ball near 2000 abralon?

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Title: Re: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: J_w73 on February 27, 2009, 03:11:48 PM
1500 US ansi/cami is close to 4000 P abralon.  They are both close to 3 micron


Here is a short summary of US ansi/cami vs FEPA "P" scale

http://www.seabean.com/polish/sandpaper.htm

check out this grit conversion chart. It is the best I have found.

http://home.earthlink.net/~litefrozen/downloads/bowling_grit_chart.pdf

Also,
check out his home page with some other useful tools. In particular the BTM ball review database.  This thing is awesome. Copy and paste it into another excel sheet so that you can sort by category.  I picked my last 4 balls by sorting by the criteria I was looking for.

http://home.earthlink.net/~litefrozen/

props to Aloarjr810 for the page and helping me out with some stats on balls that weren't in the database.


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Title: Re: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: lenstanles703 on February 28, 2009, 06:26:58 AM
If its a problem just get some 1500 sandpaper. I go to NAPA. I think Ebonite polishes from 800 grit and Brunswick from 400.
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Title: Re: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: J_w73 on February 28, 2009, 10:21:53 AM
yes.. abralon are "P" FEPA standard..
and scotchbrite are described in US grit..
side note.. I may start going to scotchbrite for anything coarser than P2000 or 1200 US.. I find that the abralon pads just don't last long and when they start wearing you don't get anywhere close to the finish you got off of a new pad.  I have 2000 pads that shine the ball up like a new 4000
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Title: Re: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: R-Zitro on February 28, 2009, 10:34:05 AM
Cobalt what would the underlying grit under the 1500 polish on a pearl cell be.
I never thought about that, I don't mind changing surfaces because in my mind I know I can duplicate it.
Title: Re: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: Carlos Colon on March 05, 2009, 07:55:18 AM
quote:
Cobalt what would the underlying grit under the 1500 polish on a pearl cell be.
I never thought about that, I don't mind changing surfaces because in my mind I know I can duplicate it.


Would like to know the answer as well.
Title: Re: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: Dan Belcher on March 05, 2009, 07:59:00 AM
Storm/Rotogrip has said that if you want to bring a ball back to their 1500 polished OOB surface (like on the Cell Pearl), sand the ball with 600 US-grit sandpaper, then use Storm Step 2 polish to bring it back up to the desired smoothness.  How long you do each side and how much pressure you use will determine the actual finish.  It won't be exactly 1500 grit per se, but it will be close if you use the right balance of time and pressure.
Title: Re: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: boblane1015 on March 11, 2009, 12:46:17 PM
It would be 4000 abralon to match 1500 grit. I just went through this discussion on the Rotogrip forum. Here is a URL with a .pdf to show how the different abralon/sandpaper/scoth brite pads compare. I hope this helps.

URL:
http://home.earthlink.net/~litefrozen/downloads/bowling_grit_chart.pdf
Title: Re: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: tomgriffin on March 17, 2009, 08:51:59 AM
Or use Storm Step 2 compound which brings pieces from 350 to 1500 polish.

Title: Re: Abralon whats closest to 1500 grit regular sandpaper?
Post by: Cobalt Bomb on March 22, 2009, 07:34:03 PM
quote:
Cobalt what would the underlying grit under the 1500 polish on a pearl cell be.
I never thought about that, I don't mind changing surfaces because in my mind I know I can duplicate it.

Dan has it right. 600 sandpaper, then Storm step 2.
If you are using Abralon, 1000 is the closest to 600 sandpaper.
Hope this helps.