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Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« on: May 12, 2015, 04:25:58 PM »
This may be old age/bad memory showing, since I can't find any reference to this anywhere, but I seem to remember some discussion of using an Abralon pad to apply polish to a bowling ball (instead of a towel)... like putting Rough Buff on a 1000 Abralon pad. What would this do to the surface of the ball? On what type of patterns would this be most useful?
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Re: Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2015, 04:38:44 PM »
What they meant was using the back side of the pad
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Re: Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2015, 05:20:12 PM »
Backupball, you are not crazy. I remember reading that as well. I'll see if I can find it when I get a chance. I can't remember the reason for it either. I believe it was a comment on one of my old posts. Also, svstar is also correct. A lot of people, including myself, use the back side of a pad.
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Re: Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2015, 07:36:50 PM »
Like SVstar34 said, most mean the backside of a pad (Not the abrasive side). Usually a old wore out one, they make good polish applicators.

You can also use a sharpie on the abrasive side  and label each one with the polish you used on it, also as a reminder of which side not to use.
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Re: Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2015, 08:16:19 PM »
Quote from: backupball on May 12, 2015, 04:25:58 PM
This may be old age/bad memory showing, since I can't find any reference to this anywhere, but I seem to remember some discussion of using an Abralon pad to apply polish to a bowling ball (instead of a towel)... like putting Rough Buff on a 1000 Abralon pad. What would this do to the surface of the ball? On what type of patterns would this be most useful?

Think how a car would look if you applied car wax with sandpaper.
Do you think there would be any situation where you might like what that would do to your car?
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Re: Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2015, 08:49:18 PM »
Quote from: charlest on May 12, 2015, 08:16:19 PM
Quote from: backupball on May 12, 2015, 04:25:58 PM
This may be old age/bad memory showing, since I can't find any reference to this anywhere, but I seem to remember some discussion of using an Abralon pad to apply polish to a bowling ball (instead of a towel)... like putting Rough Buff on a 1000 Abralon pad. What would this do to the surface of the ball? On what type of patterns would this be most useful?

Think how a car would look if you applied car wax with sandpaper.
Do you think there would be any situation where you might like what that would do to your car?
Putting it that way gives me a clearer picture of the net effect, thanks charlest.
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Re: Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2015, 05:59:31 PM »
On a similar note - i have had great luck using clean n dull on the abrasive side of the pad
gives a great new, clean grit finish
saw one of the guys at the Hammer booth doing it, of course you are donating that pad for this process
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Re: Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2015, 06:08:10 PM »
Quote from: Dave81644 on May 14, 2015, 05:59:31 PM
On a similar note - i have had great luck using clean n dull on the abrasive side of the pad
gives a great new, clean grit finish
saw one of the guys at the Hammer booth doing it, of course you are donating that pad for this process

Agreed. I generally do that when I resurfacing a ball from scratch I usually apply C&D to a 360 or a 500 grit pad at the start.
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Re: Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2015, 02:08:21 PM »
i use a liquid cleaner with abralon/scotcbrite pads.  with polish on the rough side of the pad your not really getting the full effect of the polish which is to delay reaction.  seems like you would be wasting the polish and the pad.  :-\

now there is a difference in using the pad at high speed and low speed if you have a dual speed spinner.

And a difference in polishing with a cloth at high and low speed.
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Re: Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2015, 06:23:37 PM »
I have put a storm victory road pearl in a factory surface machine, use 500 grit for 2-1/2 min then 1000 for 2-1/2 min, pull it out take a worn 4000 pad and put storm factory polish on the grit side and sorta semi shined the ball on a spinner. Rolled very well too.
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Re: Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2015, 11:27:14 AM »
 YEARS ago, I bought a NIB Pink Hammer (this was back in the "short oil" period).  Told the guy I wanted it for the extreme dry they had there.

 He took it out of the box, and proceeded to "polish" it with finesse it and an abrasive pad (sorry, I never knew what grit), then continued the process with a regular buffing pad.

 I asked him why he did that. He said that doing it this way "embedded" the polish into the shell,  and made it slicker than the oob finish.

 That was with hard, non porous urethane. Don't know what effect it would have on a porous shelled reactive ball, but I sure loved that old pink ball.
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Re: Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2015, 01:28:32 PM »
Quote from: Juggernaut on May 16, 2015, 11:27:14 AM
YEARS ago, I bought a NIB Pink Hammer (this was back in the "short oil" period).  Told the guy I wanted it for the extreme dry they had there.

 He took it out of the box, and proceeded to "polish" it with finesse it and an abrasive pad (sorry, I never knew what grit), then continued the process with a regular buffing pad.

 I asked him why he did that. He said that doing it this way "embedded" the polish into the shell,  and made it slicker than the oob finish.

 That was with hard, non porous urethane. Don't know what effect it would have on a porous shelled reactive ball, but I sure loved that old pink ball.


"Embedded the polish" ???? Are you sure he wasn't just pulling your leg??
He must have been on a different plane of existence than most of the rest of us are.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2015, 01:30:58 PM by charlest »
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Re: Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2015, 04:21:48 PM »
Quote from: charlest on May 16, 2015, 01:28:32 PM
"Embedded the polish" ???? Are you sure he wasn't just pulling your leg??
He must have been on a different plane of existence than most of the rest of us are.

It might not be as far fetched as it sounds.

In a  old BTM issue, I remember They mentioned Finesse-it and it said something about how it used some kind of microscopic ceramic particles for the abrasive and how they could get embedded in the pores of a ball and build up.

I thought it was in the 2 part article where they tested the different ball polishes.
(True Grit: The Great Ball Polish Showdown Vol.3 #6/#8 June/August 1996)

I dug them out but it's not in them so must be after them.

That might be where he got the idea.



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Re: Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2015, 04:31:22 PM »
Quote from: Aloarjr810 on May 16, 2015, 04:21:48 PM
Quote from: charlest on May 16, 2015, 01:28:32 PM
"Embedded the polish" ???? Are you sure he wasn't just pulling your leg??
He must have been on a different plane of existence than most of the rest of us are.

It might not be as far fetched as it sounds.

In a  old BTM issue, I remember They mentioned Finesse-it and it said something about how it used some kind of microscopic ceramic particles for the abrasive and how they could get embedded in the pores of a ball and build up.

I thought it was in the 2 part article where they tested the different ball polishes.
(True Grit: The Great Ball Polish Showdown Vol.3 #6/#8 June/August 1996)

I dug them out but it's not in them so must be after them.

That might be where he got the idea.


I believe both Finesse-It and Perfect-It are 3M products that use Trizact particles as the polish's abrasive. (AFAIK All polishes use micro-abrasives to polish the ball.)

If the "ceramic" (probably cerium oxide) particles got "stuck" in the resin, they'll add grip, not skid. It's kind of like making your own particle ball. However, I wonder if any of the cerium oxide particles or any of the particles in any polish on the market "get stuck in the resin".
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Re: Applying Polish Using an Abralon Pad
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2015, 04:43:06 PM »
Quote from: charlest on May 16, 2015, 01:28:32 PM


"Embedded the polish" ???? Are you sure he wasn't just pulling your leg??
He must have been on a different plane of existence than most of the rest of us are.

 Not sure, as I didn't understand it anymore back then than I do now, but it sure seemed to work. I've had a couple of  other pink's, and they've been good, but that one was one of those balls that was just "different".

 Don't know if that was from the surface prep or not, but it had to be something.
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