Author Topic: Polishing question. (Read 2620 times)

arashi300 · « **on:** May 28, 2007, 11:42:56 PM »

Does the surface really matter when the ball is polished?

For example, I have a Fury. 800 grit wet sand and polish it. Now I take it to 2000 abralon and polish it. Will the 2000 abralon skid longer? Now take the Fury down to 500 abralon and polish it. Will it not skid as much as the 2000 abralon?

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azus · « **Reply #1 on:** May 29, 2007, 07:51:08 AM »

Hm, good question. I think a lower grit before polish makes the ball slightly duller ehn polished. But im unsure :S
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Grayson · « **Reply #2 on:** May 29, 2007, 08:21:14 AM »

I'd say yes...

the lower the grit the less surface is in contact directly with the lane but the more surface is generated allowing the ball to work earlier and "eat up" oil

When polishing: the surface in direct contact with the lane will increase but the overall surface will stay the same alltogether (I guess...)

so the lower the grit the more will the ball work in oil and the earlier will it start moving but with polish one can allow the ball more skid with still keeping movement on the midlane I think

If a lower grit and polishing will make a big difference? I doubt it!

I see no different between 800 and 500 with a high glos polish applied afterwards... but between 2000 and 500 I think there will be a difference one can recognize.

BUT I have no experience at all with this! So others with more experience should answer and can give more input.
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #3 on:** May 29, 2007, 08:34:19 AM »

Makes a huge difference, from my experience. I experimented a while ago with some polished balls (Sahara, Reaction Rip) and found that the wrong base grit (tried 1.000 grit, grey 3M pad, slight sanding lines were still visible under the polish) can leave you with a dud, while a matching surface (in my case 2.000 Abralon, left a glass-like surface with polish) will restore the ball and its reaction to as good as OOB.

I was shocked how big the difference was, on both balls.

Besides, as with sanding: the finer the grit, the more length you will produce, and the less oil you will need to get the ball through the heads.
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DON DRAPER · « **Reply #4 on:** May 29, 2007, 04:08:56 PM »

it makes all the difference in the world. a ball that is wetsanded 2,000 grit and polished will go 6-8' further down the lane than a ball that's wetsanded 400 grit and polished. i've used various abrasives over the years ranging from 100 grit wetsandpaper to the cerium oxide trizact paper( appx. 10,000 grit ). there is a huge difference between these two extremes and subtle but noticeable differences between grits along the way.

arashi300 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 29, 2007, 06:23:02 PM »

Thanks for all the replies!!

« **Reply #6 on:** May 29, 2007, 06:42:08 PM »

Greg is correct. There is a HUGE difference. For example, Brunswick Rough Buff is usually started by sanding to 220 then adding the polish.
However, one of my Furys is at 1000 grit, then rough buff polish, and it goes quite long before it hooks. Good question, though.

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themagician · « **Reply #7 on:** May 29, 2007, 06:48:51 PM »

I've noticed a huge difference, my Punisher OOB (Brunswick claims 400 + high gloss)

Compared to it at 1000 grit + High Gloss, 2000 + High Gloss and also 4000 + high grit had huge differences.

OOB it would go pretty far and snap, 1000 + high gloss resulted almost the same.

2000 + Polish cut down the angularity and pushed the break back atleast another couple of feet. and 4000 + Polish (finish its at now) causes it to skid a good 2 feet longer than 2000 + High Gloss and it is very mellow at the break on the same pattern it OOB snaped hard at now it mearly gets into roll and makes a weak arcing turn that doesn't impress but that is not the point.

Experimenting with the under grits is huge, we took my shift to 1000 grit below the polish and compared to box (1500 grit and polish) it starts moving a good 2 feet earlier which is awesome for me on the harder patterns I've used it on.
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charlest · « **Reply #8 on:** May 30, 2007, 07:16:52 PM »

Not only does the base level of sanding make a difference, it also makes a difference whether you use a polish without abrasive in it or one with abrasive in it AND
- how much polish you apply, AND
- for how long you apply it, AND
- how much pressure you use, etc., etc.

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