dbbowler, i too have learned over the years to stay up the back of the ball, but even still i sometimes get an over reaction, especially with pearl equipment. i experimented the last half of the season this year with a diablo at 1000 grit, no polish. this is pretty close to what i'm looking for, and i also might drill up a tropical storm with the pin in the palm to try to tame the bounce, so that i can keep a little shine on it. thanks for the response! stopncrank
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