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lrtrees

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Sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides?
« on: November 24, 2009, 12:29:03 AM »
Ok, I know this has been discussed before, but I can seem to find it.  So please forgive me if I ask again.
My question concerns sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides and is way any better than the other.  It seems I see quite often the recommendation to do only 4 sides.  But it seems to me that misses 2 sides.  Maybe that does not matter?  I am also wondering if doing the 4 side method, which side should one start on and finish on?  And again, does it really matter?

Thanks for your thoughts,
Lon

 

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Re: Sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides?
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2009, 09:12:39 PM »
The only time I sand in more than one direction is on my final step, when I sand in either two or three directions.  And that's so the sanding lines won't all be in the same direction.  --  JohnP

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Re: Sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides?
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2009, 06:14:09 AM »
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charlest, you are absolutely correct that a ball does not have sides.  That was my very convoluted way of trying to get what was in my head to make a little sense on paper.  Of course it is only one surface with one side.
And you can say "STUPID".  I often have a tendency to make things more difficult than they have to be!

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leftyinsnellville

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Re: Sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides?
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2009, 06:48:44 AM »
While some will only do two sides, and some will do four, I pefer six, but I adjust the time I sand each side accordingly.  

For example, when sanding just two sides I would normally sand each side around 15 passes.  When I sand four sides I would sand each side around 8 passes, and when I sand six sides I tend to use around 4 passes.  This is just for coverstock maintenance or adjustment.

When resurfacing, I always sand all six sides, usually always passing over each of the six sides with each grit.  If the ball isn''t in need of a full resurface but needs more than a touch up I might start on the first two sides with 180 grit abralon (if I really want to dig into the coverstock), then move up to 360 for the next two sides, and then 500 for the next two sides.  Then I''ll make a decision based upon what I want the final surface to be like.

I might just jump straight to a 4000 grit and polish, or I could go to a straight 2000, or I might step up from 1000 to 2000 to 4000...it all really depends on the ball and what I''m looking for.  You really have an unlimited number of options.

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LaneHammer20

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Re: Sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides?
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2009, 07:00:06 AM »
I am with charlest. I only do 2 turns for each grit obviously to sand the whole ball, then go to the next grit alternating what way the fingers and thumb lay.

i only do 4 sides on the real coarse grits, when resurfacing. Never had a ball go out of round on me.

You start doing 4-6 sides on every grit, and your pads will be worn out really quick and you will be spending alot of money. Not worth it.
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Re: Sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides?
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2009, 07:05:52 AM »
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A sphere does not have "sides". Abrade the ball in a manner that will retain the roundness within the degree that you desire, using the amount of rotation that you find amenable.

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Re: Sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides?
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2009, 07:06:53 AM »
A bowling ball is like a globe.  You can divide it into hemispheres.  You have east and west hemispheres.  You have north and south hemispheres.  I never hear of front and back hemispheres in reference to a globe.  4 sided sanding makes sense to me.
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leftyinsnellville

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Re: Sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides?
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2009, 07:32:02 AM »
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Since we only observe 3 dimensional space (plus time), even a sphere has 3 sides to cope with


fixed

Last book I read on the subject says there are 11 dimensions.  Best as I could understand is that the other dimensions are "folded" up in a manner which makes them invisible to us, but we know they're there because we can observe the effects.

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Re: Sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides?
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2009, 07:33:54 AM »
KISS video:

http://www.valentinobowling.com/page6.html
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dizzyfugu

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Re: Sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides?
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2009, 07:34:42 AM »
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Since we only observe 3 dimensional space (plus time), even a sphere has 3 sides to cope with


fixed

Last book I read on the subject says there are 11 dimensions.  Best as I could understand is that the other dimensions are "folded" up in a manner which makes them invisible to us, but we know they're there because we can observe the effects.


Hmmm, O.K.. Sometimes I HAVE the impression that bowling actually happens in a 11-dimensional space...
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leftyinsnellville

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Re: Sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides?
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2009, 07:38:29 AM »
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Since we only observe 3 dimensional space (plus time), even a sphere has 3 sides to cope with


fixed

Last book I read on the subject says there are 11 dimensions.  Best as I could understand is that the other dimensions are "folded" up in a manner which makes them invisible to us, but we know they're there because we can observe the effects.


Hmmm, O.K.. Sometimes I HAVE the impression that bowling actually happens in a 11-dimensional space...



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Re: Sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides?
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2009, 01:40:13 PM »
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KISS video:

http://www.valentinobowling.com/page6.html
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Thanks for that link.  I do like keeping it simple!

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Re: Sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides?
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2009, 03:25:09 PM »
I sand six sides up to 400 grit. After that 600 on up i go to 4 sides. Once I hit 1000 grit or better I only do two sides.

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Re: Sanding 4 sides vs 6 sides?
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2009, 02:23:55 PM »
I do 4 sides, starting with thumb up,thumb down,thumb to the side with fingers down,thumb to the side with fingers up. It''s all personal preference.
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Edited on 12/30/2009 3:24 PM