Post by: charlest on January 18, 2010, 12:59:56 PM
It's been a while since I looked at the listing. So I thought I'd take a peek.
http://www.bowl.com/equipandspecs/index.jsp
1. Denatured Ethyl Alcohol used to be prohibited at any time for use on a ball, just like acetone. Now it's permitted to be used at any time. That means during competition. Be careful how you handle it. It has methanol it. That's the "denatured" part - no water. It used to be in many of Storm cleaners.
2. I had thought Clean and Dull used to be permitted to be used at any time. (I could be wrong about that. The memory is the first thing to go.) Now it is only permitted to be used BEFORE or AFTER competition.
As I said, these are not earth shattering discoveries. Just in case you didn't know, now you do.
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Post by: MI 2 AZ on January 18, 2010, 09:25:00 PM
From the list:
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"The manual application of any lane oil to a bowling ball by a bowler during certified competition is prohibited"
I've never quite understood that prohibition since they allow the use of some non-abrasive polishes during competition on a ball anyways. Could anyone clarify that for me?
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Post by: Brickguy221 on January 18, 2010, 09:32:56 PM
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Post by: azguy on January 19, 2010, 03:59:39 AM
I guess a person needs to check the list monthly ? Guess I'll have to check that list more often. Thanks for the update.
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Post by: DON DRAPER on January 19, 2010, 07:39:53 AM
however, i see nothing wrong with using these chemicals to properly clean the coverstock of a bowling ball. while there are many bowling ball cleaners available on the market many them them do not remove all the marks, scuffs, grime, etc., that accumulate on the surface of the ball. as i've stated on this website before a bowling ball or an arsenal of bowling balls is a significant investment for many people. it doesn't make sense for someone or some governing body to tell me what i can or can't use to clean this investment.
Post by: charlest on January 19, 2010, 08:20:39 AM
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although this appears that the usbc is making an effort to join the real world they are still very backward thinking when it comes to approved cleaners for bowling balls. the original idea behind this approved rating system for bowling ball cleaners goes back to when chemicals were used to soften the coverstocks of plastic bowling balls in the late 1960's and early 1970's. softening these ccoverstocks meant more friction was created and this meant more hook. modern bowling balls do not need the application of these chemicals to make them hook more. the coverstocks on todays bowling balls are light years ahead of the plastic coverstocks of that era. soaking a modern bowling ball in those types of chemicals will ruin the ball. therefore there is no advantage for the bowler to soak these balls to try and gain a competitive edge.
In line with this idea,the wording in this section now says,
"For a product to be approved at anytime, the product must not soften the ball surface or leave a residue."
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however, i see nothing wrong with using these chemicals to properly clean the coverstock of a bowling ball. while there are many bowling ball cleaners available on the market many them them do not remove all the marks, scuffs, grime, etc., that accumulate on the surface of the ball. as i've stated on this website before a bowling ball or an arsenal of bowling balls is a significant investment for many people. it doesn't make sense for someone or some governing body to tell me what i can or can't use to clean this investment.
Based on that, I wonder if that is the reason that denatured ethanol (ethyl alcohol) is now permitted at any time, where before it was not allowed to used on a ball at any time. Of course that went against the concept that Storm used denatured ethanol in most of its cleaners and said so on the label.
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Post by: DON DRAPER on January 19, 2010, 11:14:13 AM
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on January 26, 2010, 07:49:25 AM
Post by: charlest on January 26, 2010, 08:42:48 AM
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Clean 'n Dull does leave a residue so I can see why the USBC changed its stance on using it during competition. That is why the manufacturer/marketer recommends wiping the ball with a damp towel after application. Personally, I found it a pain to use during competition because of its 3 step process. I have found Valentino Remedy Rx to be a very good cleaner during competition.
Ironically, when Track and APP itself marketed Clean and Dull, the instructions had a 2 step cleaning process after the application. Now that Powerhouse markets it, that instruction is no longer there.
CLean and Dull is best used at home because of that process. It is a deep cleaner not often needed immediately after bowling. I use it about once a month on regularly used balls.
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Post by: cisco1869 on January 26, 2010, 09:07:30 PM
http://legion.trackbowling.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1523
Post by: charlest on January 26, 2010, 10:28:52 PM
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I do not know if this had any effect on the change in when Clean 'n Dull is permitted for use but probably re-enforces the need for the two step cleaning process. Apparently Track recommends that Clean 'n Dull should not be used with their new microfiber cleaning pouches they include with their new series of balls. It looks like prolonged contact could cause discoloration and pitting on the surface of the ball:
http://legion.trackbowling.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1523
Clean and Dull instructions USED to tell you explicitly NOT to do what that person did: "Do not put the cloths used to apply C&D in your bowling bag with any of your equipment". What the Powerhouse version now says, I have no idea.
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