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psycaz

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Clean n Dull has become very thin
« on: August 18, 2017, 11:05:25 AM »
I purchased a quart size bottle to save a few bucks early last year. Was very thick back then. Now the stuff is a runny as my RemedyRX.

I've only used say a quarter of the bottle as I use it sparingly. I'm worried about using it now since it's so thin, hate to ruin coverstocks.

Anyone guess what may have happened or offer a quality cleaner to use after sets to remove belt marks? The Remedy just isn't cleaning them off good enoug, even with a ton of hand pressure/rubbing.

Clean N Dull was the every 10-20 games thing to go to, but getting way more stuff on the balls now.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2017, 11:21:23 AM by psycaz »

 

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Re: Clean n Dull has become very thin
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2017, 09:57:32 AM »
For me, a mix of simple green and iso alcohol is more than good enough. Gets rid of the oil. Does a decent job getting the belt marks off - just need to put a little effort in if they are stubborn. No film either. I bowl quite a bit, so it saves a lot of money. My balls seem to react the same. 

Beyond that, I change the surface as needed and throw them in my PSO's oven whenever I feel that a deep clean is needed (or I've used the bucket method in the past). No need to deal with the harsher chemicals.

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Re: Clean n Dull has become very thin
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2017, 10:43:48 AM »
It might be hard to see on a bowling ball, but a 1:1:1 mix of Simple Green/water/alcohol leaves a film on glass.  I had some odd spots on my windshield that wouldn't come off with glass cleaner, so I used my Simple Green mixture.  It removed the spots easily, but left a nasty film afterwards.  I'm cheap so I might continue to use it as a cleaner, but I will finish up with either straight alcohol or an actual bowling ball cleaner.

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Re: Clean n Dull has become very thin
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2017, 10:56:24 AM »
Try 5 parts water to one part simple green.  It still works remarkably well and no film I have noticed (simple green made to be diluted with water).  Chemists I have seen online say don't mix alcohol with simple green in same mixture as it makes both less effective cleaners.  But one after another on the ball is the ticket.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2017, 11:24:25 AM by HackJandy »
Kind of noob when made this account so take advice with grain of salt.

psycaz

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Re: Clean n Dull has become very thin
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2017, 08:21:42 PM »
Picked up a bottle of Hook-it. Very impressed. Took off the very stubborn belt marks that the thin CnD wouldn't get.

I'll probably go back and reclean everything of my son's that I cleaned prior. Just to feel better that there isn't something left behind from the simple green combo I used.

At this point, I'm gonna consider the CnD bottle toast. I might use it to clean stuff as something in between Remedy and Hook-it, but really won't depend on it working like it should.

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Re: Clean n Dull has become very thin
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2017, 09:42:31 PM »
I saw that Ebonite has a new cleaner called Tac Gel but I don't know if that's replacing Clean N' Dull. Hammer also has a few new cleaners and I got one (Tough N' Tacky) coming in the mail tomorrow that I'm going to try. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Tac Gel is another product; it seems to be along side of Clean and Dull, not a replacement for it. It can be used during bowling; C&D cannot, near as I can tell. Tac Gel increases backend and increases overall hook (interesting). C&D does not affect length, backend, or overall hook.
https://www.powerhousebowling.com/cleaners-polishers

Good to know about that Tac Gel. I got a chance to use the Tough N' Tacky on two of my balls after league tonight and it makes the ball extremely tacky. The liquid is pretty runny like the current Clean N' Dull bottles but you don't have to use much on it. It did clean the balls very well like the Tac Gel, it can be used anytime.

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Re: Clean n Dull has become very thin
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2017, 05:04:08 PM »
91% isopropyl will take off most surface dirt, belt marks, etc. and the lane oil that wiping with a towel would remove.  It won't remove oil that's down in the cover stock.  Heat is best for removing that oil, but some cleaners will get part of it.  --  JohnP

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Re: Clean n Dull has become very thin
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2017, 05:11:19 PM »
>but some cleaners will get part of it.

Which is why imo as a part of a resurface after the first step of the lowest grit sanding its a good idea to hit the ball with some C&D before going to the next grit.  Sanding with low grit really opens the pores and the next step sanding will remove any possible C&D residue.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2017, 05:13:15 PM by HackJandy »
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Re: Clean n Dull has become very thin
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2017, 05:15:58 PM »
Picked up a bottle of Hook-it. Very impressed. Took off the very stubborn belt marks that the thin CnD wouldn't get.

I'll probably go back and reclean everything of my son's that I cleaned prior. Just to feel better that there isn't something left behind from the simple green combo I used.

At this point, I'm gonna consider the CnD bottle toast. I might use it to clean stuff as something in between Remedy and Hook-it, but really won't depend on it working like it should.

Please be sure to use gloves. That stuff is scary on bare skin.

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Re: Clean n Dull has become very thin
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2017, 07:24:14 PM »
Picked up a bottle of Hook-it. Very impressed. Took off the very stubborn belt marks that the thin CnD wouldn't get.

I'll probably go back and reclean everything of my son's that I cleaned prior. Just to feel better that there isn't something left behind from the simple green combo I used.

At this point, I'm gonna consider the CnD bottle toast. I might use it to clean stuff as something in between Remedy and Hook-it, but really won't depend on it working like it should.

Please be sure to use gloves. That stuff is scary on bare skin.

Is that where my finger nails went and why my teeth glow phosphorescent green in the dark???? :)
"None are so blind as those who will not see."

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Re: Clean n Dull has become very thin
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2017, 08:52:54 PM »
Picked up a bottle of Hook-it. Very impressed. Took off the very stubborn belt marks that the thin CnD wouldn't get.

I'll probably go back and reclean everything of my son's that I cleaned prior. Just to feel better that there isn't something left behind from the simple green combo I used.

At this point, I'm gonna consider the CnD bottle toast. I might use it to clean stuff as something in between Remedy and Hook-it, but really won't depend on it working like it should.

Please be sure to use gloves. That stuff is scary on bare skin.

Is that where my finger nails went and why my teeth glow phosphorescent green in the dark???? :)

And your pet fish is named Blinky!!

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Re: Clean n Dull has become very thin
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2017, 09:12:04 PM »
Picked up a bottle of Hook-it. Very impressed. Took off the very stubborn belt marks that the thin CnD wouldn't get.

I'll probably go back and reclean everything of my son's that I cleaned prior. Just to feel better that there isn't something left behind from the simple green combo I used.

At this point, I'm gonna consider the CnD bottle toast. I might use it to clean stuff as something in between Remedy and Hook-it, but really won't depend on it working like it should.

Please be sure to use gloves. That stuff is scary on bare skin.

Is that where my finger nails went and why my teeth glow phosphorescent green in the dark???? :)

And your pet fish is named Blinky!!

But I only clean him once a week with C&D???
"None are so blind as those who will not see."

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Re: Clean n Dull has become very thin
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2017, 10:01:17 PM »
Picked up a bottle of Hook-it. Very impressed. Took off the very stubborn belt marks that the thin CnD wouldn't get.

I'll probably go back and reclean everything of my son's that I cleaned prior. Just to feel better that there isn't something left behind from the simple green combo I used.

At this point, I'm gonna consider the CnD bottle toast. I might use it to clean stuff as something in between Remedy and Hook-it, but really won't depend on it working like it should.

Please be sure to use gloves. That stuff is scary on bare skin.

Is that where my finger nails went and why my teeth glow phosphorescent green in the dark???? :)

And your pet fish is named Blinky!!

But I only clean him once a week with C&D???

That's why he has 3 eyes!

psycaz

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Re: Clean n Dull has become very thin
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2017, 04:04:21 PM »
Gloves were used.