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LaneHammer20

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wet dry sandpaper technique
« on: September 12, 2008, 09:24:10 AM »
I normally use abralon and scotchbrite, but lately I have been investing in some wet-dry sandpaper sheets.

Problem is I can not seem to perfect a way to get a even sand on a ball. The finger holes want to make it bounce or something like that. WHen I am done it just doesn't look like it is a quality job in my eyes. Now with abralon everything comes out looking great, but then again it is very easy to use them.


'WHat are your techniques for sandpaper sheets. Thanks

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Re: wet dry sandpaper technique
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2008, 05:48:35 PM »
Here's a link that will help. There's also a part 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSfhWoduwQk&feature=related


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Re: wet dry sandpaper technique
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2008, 06:17:08 PM »
well that is demonstrating using abralon. I was asking for how you guys who have alot of experience with sandpaper sheets. I am talking, do you guys use a backing to keep it more consistently on the surface like abralon pads have with their soft backing

And I must say I didn't really like his technique all that well. I do all 6 sides of a bowling ball with the grit I am using and I don't hold it in one place as long as him. I am constantly moving.
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Re: wet dry sandpaper technique
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2008, 06:48:51 PM »
I use sandpaper regularly. Why should the techniques change? Having enough different grits on hand, changing directions, changing speeds, different hand pressure, amount of water used, etc. It does take some practice, but it's done all the time. You can hold a piece of paper against a scotch brite if that helps you even things out.

All I can say is don't be afraid to practice and experiment. Maybe start by not going below 400 grit so your lines aren't as deep? If you do go below 400 make sure you're using a higher speed so it doesn't "cut" as much.
 
Somehow before the advent of abralon and scotch brite we managed to survive.


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Re: wet dry sandpaper technique
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2008, 06:51:03 PM »
dont use too much pressure.  alot of water also!
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Re: wet dry sandpaper technique
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2008, 07:04:53 PM »
Don't use a ton of pressure, but make sure you're using enough to make the paper cut.  Use lots of water.  Try doing 6 sides.  Wrap the paper around a sponge, or use a CAB and scotchbrite with the paper for an even finish.  I don't use a CAB only because the paper doesn't contour the CAB very well.  Those are just some suggestions to try.

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Re: wet dry sandpaper technique
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2008, 07:11:52 PM »
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Don't use a ton of pressure, but make sure you're using enough to make the paper cut.  Use lots of water.  Try doing 6 sides.  Wrap the paper around a sponge, or use a CAB and scotchbrite with the paper for an even finish.  I don't use a CAB only because the paper doesn't contour the CAB very well.  Those are just some suggestions to try.

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Good advice, I know it may be pricey for someone at home but at the pro shop I help out at we get in sandpaper sheets that are cut and have an adhesive on them and have dedicated CAB's for the different grits so we have a way of applying a consistent finish and not flatten out on area of the ball or flatten the top of a hole.
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Re: wet dry sandpaper technique
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2008, 10:31:45 PM »
FWIW
I cut the standard sandpaper sheet, 8 1/2"x 11" into quarters.
I fold the quarter sheet in half, lengthwise. I use a kitchen sponge, soaked and squeezed gently so that it's damp to back the folded wet/dry sandpaper. I spray the ball with a bottle spritzer and also spray the surface of the sandpaper backed by the damp sponge and turn on the spinner. I press the sandpaper to the ball's surface GENTLY but firmly, pressing the sponge with palm of my hand. I turn the paper over and repeat on one side, roughly 6-% of the ball.

I turn the ball over and do the other 60%, overlapping roughly 10% at a time.

The wet/dry sandpaper backed by a damp sponge act exactly as an Abralon pad, with half a touch more care and 500% cheaper price, at the least.
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Re: wet dry sandpaper technique
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2008, 08:44:56 AM »
Thanks guys, i will try out these methods and report back.
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Re: wet dry sandpaper technique
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2008, 02:08:16 PM »
Charles, tried your method of using sandpaper with a sponge. It works great! Thanks for the tip.
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Re: wet dry sandpaper technique
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2008, 06:29:49 PM »
What grit sandpaper would match up to an abralon pad? (eg. 300 grit sandpaper to 1000 grit abralon)
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Re: wet dry sandpaper technique
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2008, 07:44:28 PM »
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What grit sandpaper would match up to an abralon pad? (eg. 300 grit sandpaper to 1000 grit abralon)
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Roughly
4000 grit Abralon/P4000 FEPA = 2000 grit US/CAMI
2000 grit Abralon/P2000 FEPA = 1000 grit US/CAMI
P1500 grit FEPA = 750/800 grit US/CAMI
P1200 grit FEPA = 600 grit US/CAMI
1000 grit Abralon/P1000 FEPA = 550 grit US/CAMI
500 grit Abralon (FEPA) =  350/360 grit US/CAMI

FEPA: Federation of European Producers of Abasives
CAMI: Coated Abrasives Manufacturers Institute (US)
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Re: wet dry sandpaper technique
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2008, 12:12:14 PM »
any good places to ored sand paper online where you don't have to order a 50 pack?? well not of just one grit atleast
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Re: wet dry sandpaper technique
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2008, 12:53:42 PM »
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any good places to ored sand paper online where you don't have to order a 50 pack?? well not of just one grit atleast


See my replies at the bottom of this thread:
http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=206514&ForumID=17&CategoryID=5

But also remember that online places are basically like catalog places. There's usually a minimum order $$ value and a minimum handling and shipping fee. It's best to order in some quantity to offset the addition of shipping and handling to the cost of the order. Otherwise, it's best to go someplace local even if the price is slightly more with sales tax.

See if some friends want to go in together on an order.
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Re: wet dry sandpaper technique
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2008, 12:39:39 PM »
I make sure to keep the ball wet while sanding, I use a spray bottle and I add in a touch of soap to the water, the soap helps keep the water on the ball longer and not as much on the wall or your shirt, if you are using a spinner.
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