Author Topic: Dish washer (Read 2899 times)

Ubik · « **on:** October 01, 2004, 08:28:12 PM »

I've been waiting to put my new kitchen in for a while now but finally it's in. And guess what it's got my fist dishwasher in it. Now I remember reading on here a while ago about what cycles to use and what detergents are best but I've had no luck finding them again. Can any one help please?

(The wife's not gonna like this!)
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charlest · « **Reply #1 on:** October 02, 2004, 08:36:15 AM »

1. Most dishwashers use the water directly out of your hot water tank. SO if it's set to a high temperature, like 170 or 180, I wouldn't use it for bowling balls. In general, most people seem to believe around 150 is sufficient for most hot water uses and for bowlign balls.
(NOTE: some newer dishwasher may have a special cycle that also heats the washing water to a point hotter than the incoming hot water. Read your instruction manual to learn what your dishwasher does, if it does this.)

2. Always make sure that the drying cycle is off. That uses a heater coil to dry all the dishes. It gets much hotter than a bowling ball can withstand.

The major problem with the heat is the separation of the core and the coverstock and the splitting of the cover itself.

Many people also suggest removing any inserts and/or plugging the holes themselves to prevent the hot water at any temperature from possibly contacting where the drilled holes expose where the cover and the inner cores meet.

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Edited on 10/2/2004 8:29 AM

Ubik · « **Reply #2 on:** October 02, 2004, 12:09:30 PM »

The dishwasher only has a cold water supply pipe on the back of the machine so I'll have to look in the book that come with it to find out the temperature it heats the water to. Any more views on this anyone , dose it work well , is it worth doing ?
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charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** October 02, 2004, 04:43:31 PM »

Cold water???
Could it be that the plumber accidentlaly used the cold instead of the hot?
OR
could it be that this dishwasher ONLY heats the water up to what it wants or is told to do? Check the manual. Very interesting.

(I haven't bought a new dishwasher in over 10 years. Mine only uses the hot water supplied by my hotwater heater.)
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Ubik · « **Reply #4 on:** October 02, 2004, 07:24:51 PM »

No , I plumbed it in my self. It's only supposed to have cold water going to it or there would be no way it could do the cold rinse. I gather it heats the water up to what ever it likes but I'll have to read the manual to see what that is.
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baiki · « **Reply #5 on:** October 02, 2004, 08:03:15 PM »

charlest,

Ubik is a Limey from England so his dishwasher will be a European model and not the normal ones that we're familiar with here in N America.

Ubik,
If you can set the wash temp in your unit, suggest you set it to 140 F. Ball will not be damaged at that temp. Also stop washer before it goes into dry cycle.

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baiki
"Faulty mechanics makes all balls bad." Bill Hall, BTM Dec. '98

charlest · « **Reply #6 on:** October 02, 2004, 10:35:37 PM »

quote:
charlest,

Ubik is a Limey from England so his dishwasher will be a European model and not the normal ones that we're familiar with here in N America.

woops!!
Thanks, Baiki.
Sorry, Ubik. I didn't know.

quote:

Ubik,
If you can set the wash temp in your unit, suggest you set it to 140 F. Ball will not be damaged at that temp. Also stop washer before it goes into dry cycle.

I agree. Kind of what I was saying anyway.

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stanski · « **Reply #7 on:** October 03, 2004, 11:12:45 PM »

also, to add to what these gentlemen have said, don't be afraid if the colors are a little funky after you take it out of the dishwasher. i don't know why this happens, but with my dishwasher, whenever i put a ball in it comes out with weird splotches that go away after a few games of bowling. This does work very well for restoring reaction, and you also might want to try the kitty litter method!
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charlest · « **Reply #8 on:** October 03, 2004, 11:33:48 PM »

Stanski,

I wonder if that isn't dried dishwasher soap, spotting, like what you see on glasses taken from a dishwasher when you don't have any or enough of the rinsing agent, like Jet-Dry???
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thfonz98 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 04, 2004, 02:05:48 AM »

only thing that turned light colored on me was a v2 pearl(done that, dominator, xfactor, tornado, jungle green, v2 part, trauma, and ult. inferno)....does it every time...takes a couple weeks to go away

my glasses and bowling balls come out clean and clear with cascade complete

for balls i use silly puddy to cover the holes(still face them up or the puddy gets blasted off)...wierd but IT WORKS
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Edited on 10/4/2004 1:57 AM

stanski · « **Reply #10 on:** October 07, 2004, 01:30:11 AM »

quote:
Stanski,

I wonder if that isn't dried dishwasher soap, spotting, like what you see on glasses taken from a dishwasher when you don't have any or enough of the rinsing agent, like Jet-Dry???
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ya i've never been able to figure it out and that might be a possibility. The only thing is that i've noticed this coloration if i leave them in the car on a really hot day, and its only on specific balls (command zone arc, rhino pro x, flash point, triton heat, and shock zone). I don't use any soap when i put the ball in the dishwasher, but some residue might be left over like you said, i've really never been able to figure it out.

The dishwasher method really does work though! My command zone arc has over 700 games and is still going strong (shot 280-279-222 with it today... i dont have to mention it was on the great wall of china).
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stanski

Marius · « **Reply #11 on:** October 10, 2004, 07:30:51 PM »

Hi all you dishwasher guys with blotches. A funny thing happened to me too. I was busy resurfacing a ball when the phone rang. I had my conversation and a drink. Went back to the machine and turned the bottom side of the ball up,wow! what did I see, a two tone ball. This ball that I was resurfacing was a Ninja with Urathane coverstock.Naturally, I wanted to know more and started experimenting. So on went a polyester ball. I went through the whole process again, up to having a drink. I had another drink, went back to the ball spinner,checked the polyester,and found no two tone.
My conclusion was that polyester is a far denser material than urathane which is very pourous and absorbs just about everything. Keep in mind, that ballspinners generate a lot of heat from the bearing upwards, and evaporates the water which is then absorbed at a faster rate into the ball with a deeper penetration. Also remember that I did not use any detergents, so this could not have any blotching effect.
With this I also remember a time when I was bowling in England, met up with their team coach and had a discussion about the effect of heat on your bowling ball. From him I learnt never to leave my bowling balls in the boot of a car, as it gets like an oven in there and the expansion rate of the synthetic material is greater than the weight block and can seperate the two materials from each other. If this happens and you shake your ball like an advocade pear with a loose pip, you can hear the clonking inside, so if you use your dishwasher, make sure you use very little heat.
Nice conversations,
Thank you.
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