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Title: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: mmcfarland300 on July 09, 2008, 06:08:04 AM
What are some good cleaners for sanded surfaces.
Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: tvphotog on July 09, 2008, 02:18:29 PM
ebonite Clean n' Dull
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Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: leftyinsnellville on July 09, 2008, 02:19:13 PM
Lanemasters Ball Cleaner is great on dull or sanded balls.
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Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: mmcfarland300 on July 09, 2008, 02:53:26 PM
I currently use Lanemasters cleaner and it tends to put some shine back on it.
Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 09, 2008, 02:54:13 PM
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ebonite Clean n' Dull
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Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: bluerrpilot on July 09, 2008, 03:42:11 PM
Simple Green
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Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: MrNattyBoh on July 09, 2008, 03:50:48 PM
http://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/2735/Ultimate_Bowling_Products_-_Ultra_Clean_Bowling_Ball_Cleaner_-_8_oz.htm


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Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: charlest on July 09, 2008, 04:42:59 PM
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I currently use Lanemasters cleaner and it tends to put some shine back on it.


How do you apply it?

Other than Clean and Dull, it is THE only cleaner for me that removes oil lines that lead to an oil shine.
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Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: slap on July 09, 2008, 07:20:15 PM
I'm about half way through my first bottle of Lanemasters cleaner and I've never experience any added shine, either by hand or by spinner.

My preferred cleaner is neo-tac hook it. To my eyes it's most effective cleaner I've used.
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Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: cmurder300 on July 09, 2008, 07:24:03 PM
Clean & dull, hands down followed by hook it.
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Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: Gazoo on July 09, 2008, 08:01:40 PM
Energizer after ever set.
Clean & Dull every 2 weeks for deep cleaning.
Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: mmcfarland300 on July 10, 2008, 08:58:37 AM
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I currently use Lanemasters cleaner and it tends to put some shine back on it.


How do you apply it?

Other than Clean and Dull, it is THE only cleaner for me that removes oil lines that lead to an oil shine.
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I don't have a spinner so I spray it directly onto the ball immediately after a set.  The ball in question is the Fury Solid at 800 wet sand.  It just seems to add some shine back to it.
Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: charlest on July 10, 2008, 12:11:28 PM
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I currently use Lanemasters cleaner and it tends to put some shine back on it.


How do you apply it?

Other than Clean and Dull, it is THE only cleaner for me that removes oil lines that lead to an oil shine.
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I don't have a spinner so I spray it directly onto the ball immediately after a set.  The ball in question is the Fury Solid at 800 wet sand.  It just seems to add some shine back to it.


Extremely unusual reaction. Are you sure there isn't some shine/polish underneath the dirt/sanding? (I assume not. I'm just looking for some explanation: this strong alcohol putting a shine on any ball under any circumstances defies logic.)

I've noted in other posts that I found this cleaner to remove unknown dirt and marks that not even acetone will remove.
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Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: mmcfarland300 on July 10, 2008, 02:43:59 PM
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I currently use Lanemasters cleaner and it tends to put some shine back on it.


How do you apply it?

Other than Clean and Dull, it is THE only cleaner for me that removes oil lines that lead to an oil shine.
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Yeah it wouldn't surprise me that it would remove just about anything.  Lanemasters is extremely potent stuff.

I don't have a spinner so I spray it directly onto the ball immediately after a set.  The ball in question is the Fury Solid at 800 wet sand.  It just seems to add some shine back to it.


Extremely unusual reaction. Are you sure there isn't some shine/polish underneath the dirt/sanding? (I assume not. I'm just looking for some explanation: this strong alcohol putting a shine on any ball under any circumstances defies logic.)

I've noted in other posts that I found this cleaner to remove unknown dirt and marks that not even acetone will remove.
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Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: pegleg42090 on July 10, 2008, 02:45:42 PM
clean n' dull
Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: On Fire on July 13, 2008, 04:56:57 PM
Clean N Dull and Ultimate Black Magic Rejuvenator.
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Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: charlest on July 13, 2008, 05:17:46 PM
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What are the steps I should use when using Clean & Dull, do you use it just like a regular cleaner (apply and buff). I thought I saw somebody say you use a wet cloth in a step.


The original instructions on my Track Clean and Dull say (Reading directly from the label!):
1. Wipe a small amount on with a paper towel, rubbing lightly over 1/3 to 1/2 the ball at a time in small circles.
2. Remove with a damp towel.
3. Dry the ball with a dry towel.
4. Do the remainder of the ball.
(I use Bounty paper towels I find them fairly strong.)
Additions:
5. When used with a spinner, you can increase the ball's tackiness. (I find the result on any resin ball, dull or polished, is VERY tacky. Don't press too hard. Still use light pressure.)
6. When used on extremely oily lanes, let the product remain on the ball for a minute to draw out more oil from the ball.
7. To get more hook, apply with a green nylon pad with a spinner for 30 seconds. Mist with water and clean with a clean, dry (paper) towel. (Of course, this changes the surface on all balls except those already sanded to 600 grit, the grit level of a green nylon pad.)

(All notes inside parentheses are mine!)

This procedure is why it's not the best cleaner to use at the lanes when you're cleaning your balls, after use, and  just prior to putting them back in your bag. You really need to carry a roll or paper towels and a ball cup.

Oh, there's a warning on the label, not to put a cloth towel with Clean and Dull on it back into your accessories bag or your shoe bag. Another reason NOT to take it to the lanes in your bag.

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Edited on 7/13/2008 5:21 PM
Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: JohnP on July 13, 2008, 09:16:50 PM
Those instructions are not on the bottle of Energizer Clean and Dull I have.  I'm assuming Ebonite decided to leave them off, no idea why.  --  JohnP
Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: charlest on July 13, 2008, 09:40:34 PM
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Those instructions are not on the bottle of Energizer Clean and Dull I have.  I'm assuming Ebonite decided to leave them off, no idea why.  --  JohnP


John,

I also saw some Ebonite Tech people in a short video on the Ebonite website showing how they used Clean and Dull and they also left off the "remove with a wettowel" part. That concerns me because Ebo has said it is the same formula as APP made for Track APP is the original manufacturer. I will continue to follow the Track directions.

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Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: azguy on July 14, 2008, 06:38:03 AM
I use Clean N Dull after each set, using the old ( Track ) directions. Charlest, I also noticed the newer bottles didn't say the "damp cloth" step but I still use it.

This is where it gets complicated due to my wife being the League Secretary for 2 leagues, we don't get to just leave until late at times and my grandkids, getting them rounded up and ready to go home.

I wipe each ball off with the typical mixture of Simple Green/Water. I take a plastic trash bag with 2-3 cups of Abzorb in it. Put a ball in it and close the top then put them in the bag. It can be anywhere from 30 min to an hour from our finish to getting to leave. With the grandkids, I don't have the time to really clean each ball before they go into the bag. I try to clean them once I get home that evening but I can't always ( again depending on the kids ), so if they set in the bag over night, no big deal.

Next morning I use Clean N Dull and done. Never have had a problem with the balls setting in the Abzorb over night or with the Clean N Dull. Might be a bit of overkill but it's a time/have time thing. Every 2-3 weeks I dump the Abzorb and pour in new, not sure if I need to that often but it's cheap and I'd rather do it that way than not have it work due to being full of oil.

As I said, it gets complicated but I've never had any oil  problems with anything, No Mercys, GameBreaker, Total NV, Hawg, Toxic, BW Pearl, V2 Sanded or BW Bite. Only ball I just wipe off and no Abzorb is my White Dot.

IMO, the more time you take to keep your equipment clean, the better it is and the longer it will last.

JMO
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Edited on 7/14/2008 6:39 AM
Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: slap on July 14, 2008, 07:40:36 AM
I use a wet towel to wipe down the ball after any cleaner. Just makes sense, IMO.
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Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: don coyote on July 14, 2008, 07:49:01 AM
If you try the lanemasters cleaner, you WON'T go back to anything else. I've got 3 bottles of other cleaners that I've given away. It will definitely DULL a pearl ball. BEST OF LUCK!!!
Title: Re: Good cleaners for Dull surface
Post by: JohnP on July 14, 2008, 06:53:21 PM
I also use a wet paper towel after using ANY cleaner.  A cleaner, no matter what the base solvent, is going to leave a film unless it doesn't contain any non-volatile components.  I don't want a film on the ball, therefore the wet towel.  Of course, if the water isn't distilled there's still a slight film.  --  JohnP