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Maine Man

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Fury surface question
« on: September 19, 2008, 02:21:21 PM »
Hey guys.  I perform all my own ball maintenance (have for years), but I was looking for some input about my Fury.  I have it at 800 grit sand, which works well across most medium conditions, but it has a problem making the corner and carrying on weaker backends.  I have tried it at higher grit sanded surfaces (1000, 2000, 4000), but have not liked the reaction as much as the read it gives me at 800 grit.  I would like the ball to give me more pop on the backend, without the ball losing the way it reads the midlane.  Any suggestions?  

I was thinking about going with a lower grit sand, like 400, and applying Rough Buff.  I was also considering just applying some Finesse-It II and leaving it at the 800 grit sanded surface.  I don't want the ball to have a long and strong hockey-stick type hook, just a little more pop on the backend than it has now.  Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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Maine Man

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Re: Fury surface question
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2008, 04:08:59 AM »
anybody?
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Re: Fury surface question
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2008, 06:32:42 AM »
I found the best surface to be the parking lot.. I finally got it to roll right and hook right into the ditch.. I couldn't find ant surface for this ball.. Don't think this ball was liked by many for
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Maine Man

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Re: Fury surface question
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2008, 06:35:05 AM »
strikealot, thanks for your opinion, but I do like the ball.  In fact, it is first out of my bag most of the time, because it reads the lane more "true" than most of my other equipment.  If I could just find a way that will give it a little more pop on the backend, without sacrificing the great midlane read it gives me, this ball would be unstoppable.
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Re: Fury surface question
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2008, 07:41:30 AM »
hey maine how bout 500+polish?
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Re: Fury surface question
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2008, 07:51:03 AM »
Maine,

I know of no way to keep the 800 grit and add more backend, without also adding length to the ball. One way is the one you mentioned duller finish plus some degree of polish, but that does not keep your 800 grit finish. A flare reducing weight hole (either inside or above your PAP) could also do it, but any of these will also reduce the amount of oil the ball will handle OR force you to hit more dry to allow the ball to make the turn.

You could re-drill it keeping the same pin to PAP distance but moving the pin higher up and thus closer to the VAL, will make the backend more snappy.
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Re: Fury surface question
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2008, 11:44:32 AM »
Might try changing the direction of the sanding lines to modify the reaction.
You'll still be able just use the 800 grit.

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“You can do more to create a reaction or target a reaction than just sand the ball. There are different ways to sand that will create more or less length, earlier or later hook, and more or less hook:”

    * “Sanding against (across) the initial track will make the ball more aggressive early and have less bit down the lane. Early roll, mild backend.

    * Sanding with the initial track, will help the ball skate through the head portion of the lane with a more aggressive move at the back end of the lane. More length, more finish.

    * Sanding at the “bow tie” of the track will be the most aggressive early on the lane while toning down the overall reaction. Most arc, least snap, early and even roll.

   * Cross sanding at a 90 degree angle to the original sanding will give the most consistent reaction from bowler to bowler. This is the most common of all sanding techniques.
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Re: Fury surface question
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2008, 08:22:11 AM »
Try the 400 w/rough buff. If you are using a spinner apply the rough buff on low speed. I have used red turtle wax buffing compound for this, its a lot cheaper and works well. Good luck.
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Maine Man

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Re: Fury surface question
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2008, 09:08:57 AM »
Thanks for the replies guys.  I know what I am looking for is probably not feasible, but I like the suggestions so far.  I have league tonight, and I am going to first try the 400 + Rough Buff to see how that does.  I will post either later tonight or tomorrow and let you guys know how it turned out.  If anyone has any other suggestions in the meantime, please let me know, thanks!
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Re: Fury surface question
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2008, 11:41:54 AM »
MainePBA: I did a lot of experimenting with my Fury to get the reaction you're striving for. The closest I could get was 800 grit sand, followed by Valentino's Resurrection on the spinner.

Resurrection gave the surface just a slight sheen, but I got noticeably more pop on the backend. There might be a very slight amount of additional length, but for the most part, the ball retains most of its midline characteristics.

It's easy and worth trying for the cost of a small bottle.
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Maine Man

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Re: Fury surface question
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2008, 10:29:50 PM »
Thanks for the suggestion Steven. I will be looking to pick up some Valentino's products very soon.  I ended up going with a 320 grit sand, with rough buff, and the ball worked very well.  Shot 245 tonight with it, gave me good pop, but retained most of the midlane roll.  Very happy with this combination right now.  Thanks for the replies everyone.
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