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TDC57

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Question for Pro shop guys
« on: April 16, 2005, 01:54:31 PM »
What's the scoop on resurfacing a ball like the Ebonite Big Time? It has a 1000 grit abralon finish, How how should a person go about refinishing the surface before that is applied? Should you avoid sandpaper on it or what should the steps be? Any answers?
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Re: Question for Pro shop guys
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2005, 10:41:51 PM »
Are you needing to resurface your Big Time ? or are you WANTING to resurface your Big Time ?
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Re: Question for Pro shop guys
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2005, 11:28:08 PM »
I'm just wondering about when I need to resurface, what is the best procedure? Resurface as with any particle ball and finish with an abralon pad or must abralons be used all the way thru the process?
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Re: Question for Pro shop guys
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2005, 05:15:32 AM »
You can start with sandpaper and finish with the Abralon if you want to. You don't have to use them at all. I like them because they have a foam backing, water stays in it longer, it 'hooks' to my CAB, and they last longer. They are more expensive, but I always want to turn out a finished product for my customers , a ball that I would want to have. If I'm not satisfied with the job, then it was a crappy job and they aren't getting what they paid for, so I use the pads.
I usually start with 220 or 320 sandpaper work my way up to 500 and then switch to the pads, but from there on , it's Abralon .
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Re: Question for Pro shop guys
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2005, 10:23:07 AM »
I have just started using Abralon Pads and love them. I'll never use Sandpaper again and doubtful I'll use a Scotchbrite Pad again either unless it would be for a special occasion. The only draw back I have found to the Abralon pads is that they jump in grits from 500 and then next size up is 1000. Nothing in between. Ditto for 1000 to 2000. Do they make any sizes in between these numbers?

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Re: Question for Pro shop guys
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2005, 10:52:41 AM »
I thought I had seen a site that had 1500, I got a new computer, like a dumb a** I didn't copy all my fav's, so I can't remember where I saw them, I'm sure it was some auto repair/paint site, but if I find it I'll let you know. The place I buy them from only goes 1000 / 2000 / 4000. If you find a site, drop me a note, please. Thanks
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Re: Question for Pro shop guys
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2005, 01:28:24 PM »
For the best resurfacing job, find a shop that has a Haus Refinishing machine.  --  JohnP
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TDC57

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Re: Question for Pro shop guys
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2005, 03:58:08 PM »
I'm not sold on Haus resurfacers. Seems like a lot of guys get a ball resurfaced on one and the writing on the ball is almost gone when they get it back. I'll stick with my spinner and finish with an abralon pad!
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Re: Question for Pro shop guys
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2005, 04:47:33 PM »
A Haus Resurfacer is a great item, the one BIG problem I have had with one, the guy who did my wife's Ebonite, didn't keep the wheel clean as it should have been, it stayed to long over the numbers and it took them out. You can also see an almost flat spot, needless to say I was a bit torked ! That guy is no longer in the pro shop, so maybe it was him, maybe it was the machine not being kept up, I can't say for sure, but after that, I started doing my own, as well as for others and I do all of it on my spinner.

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Brickguy221

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Re: Question for Pro shop guys
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2005, 12:41:19 AM »
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A Haus Resurfacer is a great item, the one BIG problem I have had with one, the guy who did my wife's Ebonite, didn't keep the wheel clean as it should have been, it stayed to long over the numbers and it took them out. You can also see an almost flat spot, needless to say I was a bit torked !

asguy, I have an AMF Angle Evolution Extra and a V2 Pearl that have the writing almost all gone and both balls have a flat spot. and I was "P" also. Always wondered how my former Pro Shop guy did that. I bet it may have been the same thing as what happened to you.....

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Re: Question for Pro shop guys
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2005, 01:31:03 AM »
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I'm not sold on Haus resurfacers. Seems like a lot of guys get a ball resurfaced on one and the writing on the ball is almost gone when they get it back. I'll stick with my spinner and finish with an abralon pad!


Just wondering...
Wher can I find the abralon pads?
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Re: Question for Pro shop guys
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2005, 01:34:01 AM »
Hey guys I have an Ebonite Power House Resurfacer and I think it is the best resurfacer on the market today.  I looked at every kind build before buying mine.
The problem you are talking about is the very reason I did that. My unit has
a shaft with a wheel on it so the ball will rest on it. It has a motor on this
shaft and it is timed to turn every few seconds to rotate ball to another location..It has diamond cutting pads of 400-800-1000 grit. I have recently gotten
some abralon pads that are 180-360-500-1000-2000-4000 grit. I will resurface with
diamond pads and finish up with abralon pads. (Gives a factory finish)  I have
never had a ball to become flat spotted. Yes you can cut engraving off a ball
but if you do, the surface was all cut up or was bad flat spotted where someone
did not know how to resurface a ball right. Find an Ebonite Resurfacer and
compare it against all the other brands . It is the best on the market....KENNETH
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Re: Question for Pro shop guys
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2005, 02:10:41 AM »
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Just wondering...
Wher can I find the abralon pads?
 

Eric, I got mine here. $3.15 each plus shipping.


http://www.toolpeddler.com/

Someone on this site had some cheaper than that in the For Sale/Trade  Forum on here a few days ago and same person had them on Ebay. I don't know if they are the same sizes as Tool Peddler. Buddies has them also, but They are $6.50 each.
Double what Tool Peddler has them for.

Here is the Buddies link:

http://www.buddiesproshop.com/products/5-Bowling+Accessories/0~99999/NULL-/NULL/4/16page176.htm

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Re: Question for Pro shop guys
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2005, 08:39:40 AM »
Cool,

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TDC57

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Re: Question for Pro shop guys
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2005, 04:27:45 PM »
I appreciate the latests responses to my questions. First let me get this straight, I've been resurfacing bowling balls for over 15 years. I know how to get the job done. I just wanted some input on how to refinish my Big Time when it needed it, which it doesn't. I didn't know if it should be done entirely with Abralon pads or if it could be done conventionally then finished with an abralon pad. I have sinced contacted Ebonite and they let me know how I should proceed when the time comes. Thanks everyone for your help.
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