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onlybowling

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factory finish - ??
« on: March 02, 2007, 03:38:22 PM »
I can make any ball, at any grit, tacky
with any ball polish.  Achieving tacky that squeaks is not a problem.  

I have experimented with application variables such as:
beginning grit from 400 to 4,000 - quantity and type of polish,
pressure, heat, dry to moist applicator, and time on the spinner.
The right combination of these variables eludes me.

I am struggling with degrees of tack.  
Specifically, that feeling of smooth, silky tack
found on new polished balls.  
...it is that in-between slick and tack that eludes me.

I wonder what is the key?




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Re: factory finish - ??
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2007, 06:20:38 AM »


  The key is to stop obsessing over something that is virtually unimportant. Use the surface that gives you the desired ball reaction. Cleaning the oil off at the end of the set will give you the tacky feeling. Two or three trips down the lane and the "tack" is gone anyway. Whether or not you feel the tack on a reactive coverstock is irrelevent, if it gives you the desired ball reaction. Find out what works for you and go with it. You'll find that you sleep much better.




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Re: factory finish - ??
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2007, 08:44:21 AM »
quote:
 
Specifically, that feeling of smooth, silky tack
found on new polished balls.  
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The others are right forget the "TacK" feely.

I think what your really looking for is the "Texture" of the coverstock.
Thats from the combination of grit and polish. see what the company says
they used for that surface use it and it should be close.

Also no matter what they tell you. you cant duplicate the O.O.B.(Out of Box)
new surface exactly.

Because the factory uses a special sanding machine ( I read that it was called a cone sander.Looks like a Haus machine kind of). It leaves a more random looking sanding pattern than what you do on a spinner.

But you can be close with a spinner.

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Re: factory finish - ??
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2007, 03:34:30 AM »
Personally, I found that I need to apply finer base grits to schieve the OOB looks of a ball, except for Storm ball. E. g. Brunswick: they recommend a 400 base grit bplus their high gloss finish. But even at 1.000 grit (white 3M pad) I do not get that even finish of an OOB Brunswick ball. The sanding lines are still visible. And the ball reaction is poor, too (despite using polish generously and working on the ball until the polish is really distributed well).

I recently switched to a general 1.500-2.000 grit basic sanding surface before I apply polish, and this yields a very tacky surface with a predictable lane recation on any ball I tried it yet (SR300, Reaction Rip, MoRich Sahara).

One might have to make lots of experiments, since speed, revs, etc. are individual and you simply have to find out which surface prep yields the "best" reaction for you.
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Re: factory finish - ??
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2007, 04:41:52 AM »
Finally got it right with Columbia 2000 grit polish - Quarter size amt. with medium pressure and heat - one coat over fresh surface.  Now that this polish is no longer available I will be very conservative with my remaining quart.
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Re: factory finish - ??
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2007, 04:43:10 AM »
Finally got it right with Columbia 2000 grit polish - Quarter size amt. with medium pressure and heat - one coat over fresh surface.  Now that this polish is no longer available I will be very conservative with my remaining quart.
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Re: factory finish - ??
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2007, 04:43:15 AM »
Finally got it right with Columbia 2000 grit polish - Quarter size amt. with medium pressure and heat - one coat over fresh surface.  Now that this polish is no longer available I will be very conservative with my remaining quart.
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Re: factory finish - ??
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2007, 09:45:32 AM »
I have found a very tacky finish by doing a first polish with a white scothbrite, LM/L polish and water.

Then I take it up to the final shine with Tracks Reaction Plus if needed.

Works great for me and gives an unbelievable tacky finish on all that Ive tried it on, mostly LM/L stuff but on others too.

Not exactly sure if its what you would call out of box though but works well for me.
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