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jensm

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Lifespan of bowling balls
« on: July 11, 2003, 04:13:20 AM »
Has anyone here read the July issue of BTM? The cover story is " Lifespan of bowling balls". What does it say?

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Re: Lifespan of bowling balls
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2003, 05:48:21 PM »
Charlest and T4,

Although sad in itself, it feels good to hear that you have had more or less the same problems with this ball/coverstock. Would it help to publich a black list with these products?

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Re: Lifespan of bowling balls
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2003, 06:22:31 PM »
By the way, is Holo-flex the same as Pegaxis Pro Pearl (coverstock of Heat 2 Pearl)?

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Re: Lifespan of bowling balls
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2003, 08:30:43 PM »
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Charlest and T4,
Although sad in itself, it feels good to hear that you have had more or less the same problems with this ball/coverstock. Would it help to publich a black list with these products?
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Since they (Heat 2 Pearls) are no longer being made, I think our time and energy are better directed towards something with a more positive attitude.

Many, many times ball manufacturers use the public for what we in the computer programming industry call system testers: see how the final system (in this case, the pieces of the core and the pieces that make up the coverstock) works as a whole. It is often expensive and time consuming to do this "in-house".
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Re: Lifespan of bowling balls
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2003, 08:33:50 PM »
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By the way, is Holo-flex the same as Pegaxis Pro Pearl (coverstock of Heat 2 Pearl)?
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I do not know. I believe the Heat 2 solid also uses the Pegaxis Pro coverstock and I have had no problems with mine. I have changed the surface several different times and always got the expected reaction. I should really re-drill it, as I need to stop playing with the surface ...
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Re: Lifespan of bowling balls
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2003, 11:10:14 PM »
Charlest, from your description of the lane oil condition, it does sound like there must be an inherent weakness in the Holoflex coverstock.  I wouldn't expect a ball to die in 100 games on a medium-dry oil condition either, so something must have gone haywire with the coverstock itself.

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Re: Lifespan of bowling balls
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2003, 12:33:42 AM »
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Charlest, from your description of the lane oil condition, it does sound like there must be an inherent weakness in the Holoflex coverstock.  I wouldn't expect a ball to die in 100 games on a medium-dry oil condition either, so something must have gone haywire with the coverstock itself.


Yup and it annoyed the living crap out of me!! A pearl ball dead in less than 100 games. Hogwash!

See what term4 said. Must have chatted with the Track or Columbia folks; he doesn't fib.


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Re: Lifespan of bowling balls
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2003, 10:08:24 PM »
I hope everyone is correct on the elixer, because I just bought some particle balls and put the elixer on right after drilling; so only time will tell.  I am expecting big things.

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Re: Lifespan of bowling balls
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2003, 03:48:01 PM »
Wouldn't it be great if that next BTM issue had a few usable hints from some or other manufacturer how to go about the feat described by Bob. I really liked my Heat 2 Pearl when it was new.

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Re: Lifespan of bowling balls
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2003, 07:49:13 PM »
Pupsdad,

This procedure has been talked about a lot and is not really recommended as there are tons of potential problems.
1. you are heating toxic oils and the vapors they give off can have an unknown effect. Think about all the chemicals we used to think were safe int he 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s that we now know were horrednously poisonous: asbestos, lead, benzene, and many others. These are oils used in lane maintenance and you are evaporating them in your kitchen.

2. in any heating situation, when there are two chemicals (in this case the coverstock and the core; and possible a third in the filler between the core and the cover) that, when heated to a high temperature, expand at different rates. This often and has at time sled to core separation from the surrounding material.
3. not all ovens heat the the indicated temperature; you need a correct external temperature gauge.

4. The WAF, wife acceptance factor!! you better do it when she ain't home or she'll put your gonads in there with the balls or  you won't be married for long.

There are several others ways, all of which are much safer, to extract oil from balls. Besides the fact that oil is only one factor in the DEATH of balls.

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Edited on 7/18/2003 7:53 PM
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