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xrayjay

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Hybrids covers
« on: February 04, 2015, 11:06:27 AM »
Are all hybrids 50/50 mix of pearl and solid? I really don't know much about hybrids and why the Hyroad is so damn good and others not so much.

Also, I know some bowlers who don't like using hybrid covers - too over under for them. is this true for you?

Finally, I"ve owned different hybrid covered balls and the only one I really like and used a lot was the hyroad. The rest I sold rather quickly....
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Re: Hybrids covers
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2015, 08:13:12 AM »
That is the point tkk. Who really knows, but I think they gave some good info on what is able to be done and why pearlized, solid, or hyrbid isn't really different as people think.


Remember the Danger Zone, and the 3 plus tour editions? All plain black, all identical in look, only different pin colors to tell which ball had which type of cover for aggressive to least aggressive reactions. No pearlized or other voodoo needed. Now imagine doing that twice for every ball released. Pearl, solid, ect for how many years have people bought into it. It is a lot of marketing. We all buy into it.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2015, 08:30:07 AM by kidlost2000 »
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Re: Hybrids covers
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2015, 08:31:17 AM »
No doubt. These companies are making Millions off of our stupidity. Do I need all 3 of 1 ball, meaning solid, pearl, hybrid? No. But do I usually end up with them if I like the first? Yes. Marketing or not, we all buy the balls whether it's a pearl or Nutella.

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Re: Hybrids covers
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2015, 08:50:30 AM »
Agreeeeed except nutella I'm going crunchy peanutbutter all day.
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Re: Hybrids covers
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2015, 08:54:07 AM »
Hazelnut is more "additive" where crunchy peanut butter is more "particle." And we all know how "particle" is perceived. It's all marketing  ;D

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Re: Hybrids covers
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2015, 09:04:52 AM »
Its breakfast now. Thanks for that
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Re: Hybrids covers
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2015, 10:04:58 AM »
My point is I really believe this tells you that looks pearl, solid or hybrid do not matter it is ball surface and the actual additives that determine ball length ect.

To me this is what is making this post a confused jumble.

That the terms pearl, solid or hybrid keep being used in it just for how the ball visually looks.

And to me at least, that's not what they (at least originally) are referring to.

Solid does not mean a solid color ( it's usually referring to a ball with a certain coverstock type)

Pearls were balls that had a additive (typ. Mica), went longer and snapped some. Not just balls with smooth surfaces and swirly colors.

And a Hybrid is just splitting the difference between the other two, Hybrids don't have a "look". You can't look at a unknown ball on the rack and say that's a hybrid just from the looks.

Yes the actual additives are what determine ball reaction (as far as the coverstock goes)

Yes the visual look of a ball doesn't matter in how it reacts.

Yes the other manufactures have the same ability to use other additives.

Now if a company (lets say Radical) has a new additive that makes a ball react like a "Pearlized" ball (Meaning one that used Mica as the additive) and make it look anyway they want.

And they want call it something else other than a pearl or whatever, that's fine.

The fact that a lot of people don't understand that you can sand pearls etc. isn't particularly the companies fault.

But none of that really means that the companies have been perpetrating some big hoax on everybody.

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Re: Hybrids covers
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2015, 10:10:43 AM »
They used these terms for marketing.....and it worked....it allowed 3 different ball motions with the same core in almost every line...

To me personally, I tend to look at the motion itself....dont care what the "makeup" is. I  play with surface on every ball I get to find whats best for me regardless of what its called...
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Re: Hybrids covers
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2015, 10:23:50 AM »
Too many have been brain washed over the past 30 yrs or so into believing what the marketing tells you instead of believing what your eyes tell you, as well as logic...
Reality vs perception...if someone TELLS you something enough times you will eventually believe no matter what you may think
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Re: Hybrids covers
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2015, 10:34:35 AM »
Too many have been brain washed over the past 30 yrs or so into believing what the marketing tells you instead of believing what your eyes tell you, as well as logic...
Reality vs perception...if someone TELLS you something enough times you will eventually believe no matter what you may think

Exactly, it reminds me of the anti-vax crowd......

To me personally, I tend to look at the motion itself....dont care what the "makeup" is. I play with surface on every ball I get to find whats best for me regardless of what its called...

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Re: Hybrids covers
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2015, 11:09:12 AM »
So who will launch the company that releases balls with no CGs/ no listed overstock type and a bag of abralon pads? I mean, we've been lied to for 30 years and none of that matters except for surface anyway.
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Re: Hybrids covers
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2015, 11:29:13 AM »
Cg tells where the top weight is located. Many don't check this prior to drilling and the end results are illegal statics.

Call it Mystery or Box of chocolates. Great company names.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2015, 11:31:24 AM by kidlost2000 »
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Re: Hybrids covers
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2015, 11:33:15 AM »
Most don't truly understand what a CG is...
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Re: Hybrids covers
« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2015, 11:46:49 AM »
Same for buckeyes
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Re: Hybrids covers
« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2015, 01:36:42 PM »
so many of us joe bowlers were fooled and played like a bitch without being called a whore by these companies and proshops....??? uhm...

I own 6 balls now, instead of owning 30....looks l like I'll have plenty room in my storage for other things....
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