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lefty50

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Mirka Mirlon - follow up question
« on: October 14, 2016, 07:51:16 AM »
Reading previous posts on the use of Mirka Mirlon pads as a dry alternative to Abralon or Sia Air. I think I'm going to give it a shot, but curious.. How long does a Mirka pad last in comparison to Sia Air or Abralon? What is the difference between Mirka and Mirka Total?
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scotts33

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Re: Mirka Mirlon - follow up question
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2016, 08:54:35 AM »
I use Mirka's Total Mirlon in a see saw as these are the same pads as used in a Turbo Sandbagger.  360, 1500 and 2500 can be found on Amazon.  Be aware that unless you are using quite a bit of surface this is not the product for you it's more like a ball in a Haus machine when done rather than a higher rpm spinner.  I use the 1500 and 2500 quite a bit when surface is needed touching up at the lanes.  The media in Mirlon is more porous and thinner than scotchbrite so it does not hold up as long.  I'd say you would get 6 good uses from each side before you'd discard.  Cost is reasonable if you get 12 uses.  Also, I rinse them out cleaning residue from the product. 

Be aware if you are handy with a sewing machine put a couple of small pockets in a larger seesaw this will help the edges of Mirlon from rolling up or purchase a Sandbagger and find Mirlon on Amazon as it is much cheaper than purchasing Mirlon thru bowling on-line stores which is also true of SIAair and abralon thru sites like abralonpads.com
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Re: Mirka Mirlon - follow up question
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2016, 07:11:32 PM »
I actually would like to see a ball look more like the Haus effect after sanding, so that would be good. They say fewer scratches... Do you agree?
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Re: Mirka Mirlon - follow up question
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2016, 07:18:13 PM »
They're pretty useful but, for the frugal people, they are much thinner than the equivalent Scotch-Brite pad. Their edges roll up very easily when I use them on the spinner. That said, I do like their light grey one which is about 2500 grit FEPA.
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Re: Mirka Mirlon - follow up question
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2016, 07:31:14 PM »
Quote from: lefty50 on October 14, 2016, 07:11:32 PM
I actually would like to see a ball look more like the Haus effect after sanding, so that would be good. They say fewer scratches... Do you agree?

No, I think they leave higher peaks and valleys for the same grit via hand with seesaw/Sandbagger vs. spinner at higher rpms.  Which makes sense since you are using them by hand in a seesaw or Sandbagger which is moving slower more like a Haus machine.  Spinners at a high rpm are for polish IMO. 

Mirka Total was designed to be used by hand and dry.....not like SIAair or abralon with water on a spinner.
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Re: Mirka Mirlon - follow up question
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2016, 11:16:55 AM »
Scott, how often do you use your seesaw with Mirka Total pads to touch up a ball? I'm considering getting a Sandbagger (decidedly NOT handy with a sewing machine) and was wondering just how much it should be used without over or under doing it.

I use Motiv Power Gel Scuff by hand which does a nice job of keeping the surface from shining up but something more even and effective would be nice every once in awhile. Given your description this sounds even better than touching up with a spinner so I'm definitely intrigued.
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Re: Mirka Mirlon - follow up question
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2016, 11:40:32 AM »
Quote from: CoorZero on October 16, 2016, 11:16:55 AM
Scott, how often do you use your seesaw with Mirka Total pads to touch up a ball? I'm considering getting a Sandbagger (decidedly NOT handy with a sewing machine) and was wondering just how much it should be used without over or under doing it.

I use Motiv Power Gel Scuff by hand which does a nice job of keeping the surface from shining up but something more even and effective would be nice every once in awhile. Given your description this sounds even better than touching up with a spinner so I'm definitely intrigued.

CoorZero--Depending on your need for surface which some do need and others do not.  Those that need 1500 to 2500 I think Mirlon is the way to go  Since, balls after a game or to migrate to 4000 and beyond if you want a consistent reaction and consistent surface you can do a touch up after/before every set and not remove much material.  Spinners revolving at high rpms on a spinner depending on how much pressure over time can remove a lot of material.  The weight of a 14 lb to 16 lb. ball in a seesaw in my mind isn't as much pressure as one can out on a ball by hand on spinner.  This is variable by the end user.  The weave of Mirlon is more open and the peaks and valleys seem more defined in my eye.  Cost of Mirlon Total for a 3 pack is reasonable but you do need some pockets sewn into or purchase a Sandbagger so the ends do not roll up.  I get about 6 touch ups on each side and rinse between touch ups and let dry.  I use Mirlon dry. That's my take
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Re: Mirka Mirlon - follow up question
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2016, 01:10:18 PM »
A late follow up, but Santa brought me a Sandbagger this year and the early results are impressive. The 25-packs of each grit were a good bonus too. I really like how well the surface is touched up. Used the 2500 pad on my new Mastermind Einstein and it was a nice little adjustment.

On a side note, does anybody use the 360 pads alone or is it more of using the 360 pad and then the 1500 or 2500 pad after it? Kind of like a mini resurfacing.
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Re: Mirka Mirlon - follow up question
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2016, 01:18:30 PM »
I have used 360 Mirlon and then 1500/2500 in the past CoorZero.  Just to see what reaction I would get.  As, I have said the use of a Sandbagger or see-saw with 1500 or 2500 Mirlon is more Haus like than a spinner with abralon or SIAair.  The scratches (peaks and valleys) are more random and around the ball without the doing a 4 side or 6 side on spinner with less pressure and removes less material IMO.  Good for touch up after practice if you need some change with more surface before competition starts. 
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Re: Mirka Mirlon - follow up question
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2016, 01:23:40 PM »
Coor, what do you mean "the 25 packs were a good bonus"? The Sandbagger doesn't come with that does it?
I'm loving the Mirlon Total. Personally, I cut them in half and have actually been throwing them away after one use. $20 for a 25 pack and always having a fresh surface for less than a buck? Yes please.
I tried the 360 in a sample pack... DANG! That takes off a lot. Mini resurfacing at least. I wouldn't use them every time, but it takes off more than anything else I've seen. I bought some 500 Sia to see if that will work as a base.
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Re: Mirka Mirlon - follow up question
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2016, 01:45:18 PM »
Quote from: lefty50 on December 28, 2016, 01:23:40 PM
Coor, what do you mean "the 25 packs were a good bonus"? The Sandbagger doesn't come with that does it?
I'm loving the Mirlon Total. Personally, I cut them in half and have actually been throwing them away after one use. $20 for a 25 pack and always having a fresh surface for less than a buck? Yes please.
I tried the 360 in a sample pack... DANG! That takes off a lot. Mini resurfacing at least. I wouldn't use them every time, but it takes off more than anything else I've seen. I bought some 500 Sia to see if that will work as a base.

I meant that I got the 25-packs in addition to the Sandbagger. Didn't come together in one package. Turbo wouldn't want that, might cut a wee bit into their 2 pads for $10 pack.  ;D

Yeah, I can't imagine ever needing 360 as a final surface so I will probably end up using them as a base and laying one of the other two over it.
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Re: Mirka Mirlon - follow up question
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2016, 04:45:32 PM »
Quote from: lefty50 on December 28, 2016, 01:23:40 PM
Coor, what do you mean "the 25 packs were a good bonus"? The Sandbagger doesn't come with that does it?
I'm loving the Mirlon Total. Personally, I cut them in half and have actually been throwing them away after one use. $20 for a 25 pack and always having a fresh surface for less than a buck? Yes please.
I tried the 360 in a sample pack... DANG! That takes off a lot. Mini resurfacing at least. I wouldn't use them every time, but it takes off more than anything else I've seen. I bought some 500 Sia to see if that will work as a base.

Steve,

Throwing them away after one use is crazy. They last quite a bit longer than that. I have used some for 10 - 15 uses. Most times I try nt to be cheap; with these there is no need to be cheap - just practical. Give them at least 5 - 7 uses, dude!!
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