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Ric Clint

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More about HOOK AGAIN... new technique possibly?
« on: May 17, 2004, 04:47:52 PM »
I'm very impressed with this sawdust... er, Hook Again stuff so far!!!

I just ordered a refill of the compound to try on some other balls... you can buy this stuff for like $12.00 or something.

It seems like everybody talks about their particle balls dying after 100 games and then they use the Hook Again... but what they are doing is letting the ball completely DIE first before they use the Hook Again... but I think it's best to throw it in the Hook Again like after 50 games which is right about the time that you START to see the drop off happening, instead of after 100 games when the thing is completely dead and burried in your backyard's flower bed.


What I mean is this:

Everybody knows what it feels like to have that NEW ball "reaction" when you just get a brand new ball and for the first 40-50 games, the ball is just flat out hooking like mad... coming back from angles never thought possible... end over end players with like 10 degrees of Axis Rotation are crossing like 37.794 boards and bringing the ball back from the 1 board, and even with their 2 revs and lack of rotation, the ball is screaming back and going brooklyn and they're so happy and so amazed that they have great big ol' tears streaming down their face... and they're shooting 800's every other week or 2... and making the 7-10 split by hitting both pins WITH THE BALL because it's got so much backend hook that it goes down to the 10 pin and knocks it over and then just SNAPS!!! over to the 7 pin and knocks it over and the next thing you know you've got yourself a lovely 7-10 Split PATCH................................. and then after 50 games, the thing starts dying and the bowlers become so saddened that they start looking for the nearest clif to drive their car off of because they've simply had enough!

Well, my friends... don't give up yet! There's still hope!


Instead of letting the thing completely DIE, why not keep the ball's life going by doing the Hook Again more often than just every 100 games... maybe like every 50 games? It's not that expensive.

Because see what happens is, during the FIRST 50 games of the ball's life... you shoot the lights out regularly. But during the LAST 50 games, you continue to keep using that same ball that is dying little by little and the ball ends up getting you in trouble because it doesn't have that "crisp" reaction when it was NEW. And your scores drop dramatically.

What would be a great thing is... after say 50 games (which is before the thing is completely dead, and it still has a decent heartbeat left), put it in the HOOK AGAIN (and also give it a resurface and polish it up with Ebonite's "Particle Polish" to remove the BROKEN particle's from the ball as EBONITE says) and revive it so that you don't see that big drop off in performance and by doing this your scores won't start to suffer!


New balls just always seem to carry better for the first 40-50 games or so. Most people usually bowl their best games/sets with a new ball, or a "new ball reaction".



This theory make sense???






Edited on 5/18/2004 9:43 PM

 

jensm

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Re: More about HOOK AGAIN... new technique possibly?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2004, 12:19:28 PM »
Sure, new bowling balls have goooood backend. I'm sure that's why I think I see so many newly drilled balls in the bigger tournaments.

Moreover, it is certainly true that you can delay dead ball syndrom by using Hook Again. In addition, you can prolong new ball reaction by using deep-cleaning products like Clean & Dull or Renew It.

I have an Ebonite Apex Adrenaline that still reacts like new each time I resurface it. No need yet for Hook Again.

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Ric Clint

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Re: More about HOOK AGAIN... new technique possibly?
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2004, 09:44:40 PM »
Well, I've got my own home ball spinner... and I follow a strict cleaning process, but none of this seems to work. There's guys that I know who NEVER clean their stuff EVER and they get as many games out of their stuff as I do even with me cleaning my stuff after every set.

Here's my process below:

1) I wipe the ball with a MicroFiber oil-free towel between every shot.
2) After every set, I use Ebonite Energizer Cleaner.
3) After 25 games of use, I use the Track Clean N' Dull to apply a deep cleaning.
4) After 50 games, the ball is 3/4 of the way dead), and I've even tried to refresh the particles by using 600 grit scothbrite on the ball on the spinner and then polishing it back up.


After the 50 games mark, nothing I do will bring it back to being "as strong" as it once was... EXCEPT the HOOK AGAIN!!!

I've tried soaking it in Hot Water... but that hasn't really helped me. Sure, it does get the oil out, and it looks like that would make the ball start hooking again, but for me it doesn't. And on Ebonite's web site, under the "Hook Again" page, they say that Oil build up is NOT the cause of ball death anyways... "plasticizers" are. And after trying all these methods of getting the oil out of the ball, and the ball still not gaining any of its hook potential back... and then trying the Hook Again and having it actually bring the ball back as strong as ever... I believe them!!!






Ric Clint

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Re: More about HOOK AGAIN... new technique possibly?
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2004, 01:18:22 AM »
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Re: More about HOOK AGAIN... new technique possibly?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2004, 07:57:49 AM »
Ric, I'm curious as to what brand of ball are you talking about? Here is what I do and the balls I own:

1. Wipe ball after every shot with a micro fiber towel.

2. Clean every ball used after every bowling session (even it it was only thrown 3-4 times) with Neo Tac's "Liquid Nitro."

3. Treat with Neo Tac's Hook-It every 30 games. (Use Neo Tac Renew-It first and then Neo Tac's Hook-it if it is a Pearl Ball.)

4. I have done this to all ov my Lane 1 Balls and Ebonite V2 Balls. Some have 150-200 games or more and they work/hook/carry as good today as they did the day they were NIB.

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Ric Clint

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Re: More about HOOK AGAIN... new technique possibly?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2004, 11:42:39 PM »
quote:
Ric, I'm curious as to what brand of ball are you talking about?


Both of the balls that I've tried are COLUMBIA balls. The Mass Chaos and Reaction Rev. And I'm about to try a friend's Roto Grip ASSAULT Pearl and see if it works too.






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Re: More about HOOK AGAIN... new technique possibly?
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2004, 02:40:36 AM »
I suspected they might be Columbia balls before I asked because Columbia balls seem to die young.
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Re: More about HOOK AGAIN... new technique possibly?
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2004, 03:15:45 AM »
resurfacing is for losers, me and my phenom unleashed with 5 boards of hook do fine . i'm joking, i clean my ball after every shot, and 'bleed' it whenever i get the chance, but i'll look into this hook again stuff.

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Re: More about HOOK AGAIN... new technique possibly?
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2004, 07:02:34 AM »
Why not give Mike Cimba's ball oil extraction/rejuvinating gel a try.
You put some on your ball every 21 games or so and it well.. rejuvinates it.
Ive noticed a marked improvement on my equiptment.
I'll admit its not the nicest looking stuff to use, but it definatly seems to keep the reaction fresh and sharp so long as you use it regularly.
Ive not tried it on a "dead" ball yet, just on my kit that Im using as its hard to ship to the UK and Mike's sometimes a bit busy beating all those superstars.
And by the way its CHEAP too.....
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Re: More about HOOK AGAIN... new technique possibly?
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2004, 10:46:23 PM »
How about folks using Doc's Magic Bowling Ball Elixir?  Anyone use this long enough to give a reading on how it affects ball life!  I've recently put it on a second ball, because I'm noticing that the first I put it on, my Triumph, doesn't seem to be picking up as much oil as everyone else's on the lanes here!

Just curious!
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