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BXTECH

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OIL EXTRACTION
« on: August 08, 2008, 03:29:50 AM »
What is the process for the hot water bath to take the oil out?
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Re: OIL EXTRACTION
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2008, 09:04:41 AM »
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OMG.    It ain't rocket science.  Bucket. Hot tap water. Ball in bucket.  Leave for 15 minutes or longer.  Repeat if necessary.  Don't have to take surface down. Don't have to cover holes.  Simple.


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Jay

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Re: OIL EXTRACTION
« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2008, 02:36:25 AM »
Is it pointless or even harmful to use the hot water bath method without dish soap?  Since it prevents re-absorption it seems like a must.

Also, I've heard that it's bad to leave your ball out in hot and cold temperatures.  I understand why not the cold more than the hot.  I've been told a ball shouldn't be exposed to direct heat but I'm not sure of the difference between that and hot water, as long as it's under the safe temperature of 150 degrees.  I'd personally rather use an oven but people say don't.
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Re: OIL EXTRACTION
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2008, 02:57:47 AM »
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Is it pointless or even harmful to use the hot water bath method without dish soap?  Since it prevents re-absorption it seems like a must.

Also, I've heard that it's bad to leave your ball out in hot and cold temperatures.  I understand why not the cold more than the hot.  I've been told a ball shouldn't be exposed to direct heat but I'm not sure of the difference between that and hot water, as long as it's under the safe temperature of 150 degrees.  I'd personally rather use an oven but people say don't.


#1: soap/dish detergent binds oil in the water giving the water the ability to absorb more oil... but the real advantage is that with the soap the oil actually is "pulled" off the sruface of the ball. Without it might just come out on the surface and stay there... some will go up but the main oil will stay/sit in the ball
IT is a matter of taste imho... I use soap.

#2 the problem are sudden differences in temperature or punctuall temperature differences on the ball... those create tension in the ball and tension/stress leads to cracking.... simple as can be.
That's why most companies advise to keep the ball at constant "normal" temperature
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Jay

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Re: OIL EXTRACTION
« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2008, 03:47:17 AM »
And hot water doesn't affect the temperature of the ball like direct heat would?

I've always been paranoid about any type of oil extraction method, so 've just stuck with cleaning the surface to get rid of dirt and oil from there.  The reason for that is because in the past, balls that I've used the hot water method on seemed to lack performance.  Although, that could have been the layout of some of those balls in general, as they weren't great to begin with anyways, and the fact that they were Ebonite balls.  Only one of them actually lost performance after time, and now I'm trying the hot water method again, this time with soap to see if it helps any.
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JohnP

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Re: OIL EXTRACTION
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2008, 10:00:17 AM »
There is nothing wrong with dry heat as long it is controlled properly.  You don't want to get above ~140 degrees, the controls on a standard household oven are not reliable enough to ensure this.  You can find horror stories of people melting balls, catching them on fire, etc. while using a home oven.  Pro shops use an oven with special controls and they work fine.  The advantage of hot water is that most home hot water heaters are set to produce water at 120 - 140 degrees, which is perfect.  If you use a dish washer, be sure to turn of the heated dry cycle.  --  JohnP
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