Author Topic: Polish on Abralon Pad (Read 9016 times)

agroves · « **on:** February 06, 2008, 05:28:06 PM »

I tried this on my Mystic tonight. I took a 2000 Grit Abralon pad and put some polish on it. Then applied a small amount of aqua and sanolished my Mystic.

It seemed like I was able to duplicate the OOB reaction that I was looking for. I tried sanding to 2000 then polishing, but it went much further down lane that the OOB condition.

I got the idea from a buddy, who said some ball rep at a High roller told him to try it.

Thoughts?

Andrew

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vilecanards · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2008, 01:29:39 AM »

I am curious as to any replies also...
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mw11x300 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2008, 07:39:53 AM »

Been doing this for years with regular sandpaper and scotch brites. Works extremely well on particle pearls. My favorite application right now is 800 grit paper with Ebonite factory finish polish on solid reactives. Another little thing I have done which works very well is to highly polish a ball then very lightly go over it with a 4000 abralon pad. This will give you the necessary length with a smoother reaction off the end of the pattern.

dizzyfugu · « **Reply #3 on:** February 07, 2008, 07:46:22 AM »

I use Abralon + (Brunswick's) polish on most of my glossy balls now. Before, I used a 1.500 mesh pad - anything rougher left me either with a too coarse surface and/or unsatisfactory lane reactions for my style.
But since I got hold on 2.000 grit Abralon pads, I prefer these as a base, e .g. on my Sahara, Renegade or Reaction Rip. The result is a very nice and durable finish. I sand the ball from 4 sides, and then apply polish from 4 sides on my spinner. Very good length, and (what is more important for me) good lane contact at the break point. Haven't tried 4.000 plus polish yet on a reactive (only on my polyester ball), since I did not feel the need so far in my arsenal, but I am sure this will work well, too, and improve length through the heads even a bit further.
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star · « **Reply #4 on:** February 07, 2008, 08:00:56 AM »

Ive used the white scotchbrites to polish for years also.

Dizzy, I think he means he uses the Abralon to polish the ball not just as a base sanding.

I love the feel of the ball and you get an awesome reaction too, well I seem to with it. I put this up ages ago when someone asked how to get that silky feel that you get on NIB balls.
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2008, 09:25:49 AM »

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Dizzy, I think he means he uses the Abralon to polish the ball not just as a base sanding.

Uh, if that's the case sorry for the misunderstanding! Hmmm, in this case, I would not recommend it. You need some soft cloth to apply polish well, and even a 4.000 grit pad would IMHO be too rough to achieve a good result. I'd say, you effectively ruin any polish you might apply, and still end up with a 4.000 Abralon surface.

I understood that Andrew just witnessed the reaction differences between basic grits before applying polish - and this is something I can confirm and recommend to experiment with, just to optimize the arsenal for the personal style and needs.
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charlest · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2008, 02:00:42 PM »

My only caution is that it sounds like it would be hard to duplicate the exact (or close) finish, time after time. You can't used a used pad, because you don't really know its grit level; so you always have to use a fresh one. Then, can you take the polish off this pad or remove it? If not, what do you do with this pad, now?

If you're applying the polish with a 2000 grit pad to get a 2000 grit polished appearance, what grit is the ball before you apply this? 1000? 1500 ?
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vilecanards · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2008, 02:03:07 PM »

^^^^^^^^^ this is who I was waiting to hear from^^^^^^^^^
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agroves · « **Reply #8 on:** February 08, 2008, 12:26:21 AM »

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My only caution is that it sounds like it would be hard to duplicate the exact (or close) finish, time after time. You can't used a used pad, because you don't really know its grit level; so you always have to use a fresh one. Then, can you take the polish off this pad or remove it? If not, what do you do with this pad, now?

If you're applying the polish with a 2000 grit pad to get a 2000 grit polished appearance, what grit is the ball before you apply this? 1000? 1500 ?
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You think too much! I think you can reuse the same pad a few times. To think that I'm good enough to tell the difference between a once used 2000 grit pad with polish and a 4th time used pad is ridiculous.

Andrew
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charlest · « **Reply #9 on:** February 08, 2008, 05:51:02 AM »

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My only caution is that it sounds like it would be hard to duplicate the exact (or close) finish, time after time. You can't used a used pad, because you don't really know its grit level; so you always have to use a fresh one. Then, can you take the polish off this pad or remove it? If not, what do you do with this pad, now?

If you're applying the polish with a 2000 grit pad to get a 2000 grit polished appearance, what grit is the ball before you apply this? 1000? 1500 ?
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You think too much! I think you can reuse the same pad a few times. To think that I'm good enough to tell the difference between a once used 2000 grit pad with polish and a 4th time used pad is ridiculous.

Andrew
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sorry ....
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agroves · « **Reply #10 on:** February 08, 2008, 06:23:00 AM »

I'm just messing with ya...
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charlest · « **Reply #11 on:** February 08, 2008, 09:50:58 AM »

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^^^^^^^^^ this is who I was waiting to hear from^^^^^^^^^
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I'm not saying it's good or bad. I have never tried it myself. I understand why it was tried and if it works for them, I will not doubt their word. I don't work that way. If I gave that impression, I apologize. Andrew and dizzy know what they are doing; they are experienced.

Those were my concerns, IF I WERE TO TRY IT. As things are for me, I'm fine with doing sanding and polishing the less hurried way, the way I have done it in the past.

There are valid alternatives to every process.

I have heard of many people using the White nylon pad for several purposes BECAUSE it is virtually a NON-abrasive.
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onlybowling · « **Reply #12 on:** February 09, 2008, 06:28:36 AM »

I have not tried this technique, but I have read about it prior to your post and I will be giving it a try.
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Brickguy221 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2008, 11:03:56 AM »

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I have heard of many people using the White nylon pad for several purposes BECAUSE it is virtually a NON-abrasive.

Trim Man, I will have to agree with Charlest here as I find the Scotch-Brite White Nylon Pads to be virtually NON-abrasive.

Is it possible the white ones from Speciality Tools are not Scotch-Brite and maybe another brand that could possible be a wee bit abrasive?
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Brickguy221 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2008, 01:50:16 PM »

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Also tell me where charlest says scotch brite in his post, Star does but not charlest.

I never said Charlest said it..... but I said it. When I sand a ball with 1000 Grit Abralon, it sands it, but when I sand a ball with a White SCOTCHBRITE Pad, it does nothing to the ball. The White Scotchbrite pads are so harmless that I use them with Clean and Dull to clean my pearl balls and polished reactive balls and it doesn't change the surface a bit.
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