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General Category => Coverstock Preparation => Topic started by: TheGom on September 01, 2013, 03:55:18 PM
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Looking for good polish to do by hand for Storm 1500 grit polished balls.
Thoughts please
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I am using Black Magic polish on a 4000 grit surface. The polish is OK---not great but OK.
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Excellent choice is Beans Secret Sauce. It adds tackiness and hold its shine for quite awhile. I have nothing but success with this product
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Perogies are my favorite... Oh the other polish... I bought some of the elite polish a while back and it seems to work well. Have heard great things about Valentino's snake oil too. Ill probably try that next.
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Excellent choice is Beans Secret Sauce. It adds tackiness and hold its shine for quite awhile. I have nothing but success with this product
Just ran out of some...had it for years!
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+1 for Valentino's Snake Oil. Great stuff to use.
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I still use Bean's Secret Sauce.
Did anyone notice a difference in the product when Beans owned it and after he sold the brand? I hard it changed. But can't confirm it. I bought 3 bottles before he sold and I love it.
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Personally I use Valentinos Snake Oil about 90% of the time. It is easy to use and very adjustable in its ability to shine the ball as much or as little as you need/want. It also lasts much longer than most polishes.
I also find it better than Secret Sauce because Snake Oil is more adjustable; I find SS to be an on again, off again type of polish, sort of all or nothing. Plus even Beans recommended that you use no finer a grit under the polish than 1000 grit. With Snake Oil, I can use any grit from 360 to 4000 grit. Plus, as with Secret Sauce, where you can just apply water to a pad used with it previously to apply more polish, I can do the same with Snake Oil.
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Personally I use Valentinos Snake Oil about 90% of the time. It is easy to use and very adjustable in its ability to shine the ball as much or as little as you need/want. It also lasts much longer than most polishes.
I also find it better than Secret Sauce because Snake Oil is more adjustable; I find SS to be an on again, off again type of polish, sort of all or nothing. Plus even Beans recommended that you use no finer a grit under the polish than 1000 grit. With Snake Oil, I can use any grit from 360 to 4000 grit. Plus, as with Secret Sauce, where you can just apply water to a pad used with it previously to apply more polish, I can do the same with Snake Oil.
I agree 100% with what Charlest said. Also in reference to the Beans Sauce, not everyone has success using it as many people have a problem with their ball skidding thru the break point when using it. For me, the sauce is a very touchy polish in trying to get the correct amount on the ball whereas I never have that problem with Snake Oil or other similar polishes.
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Have you forgotten, or do you just ignore that Remedy R/X is the only Valentino's product on the USBC approved list? -- JohnP
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Have you forgotten, or do you just ignore that Remedy R/X is the only Valentino's product on the USBC approved list? -- JohnP
Why are they even selling it if it's not on the approved list? That would be my question to the people at Valentino. Then again, who's really going to know? I highly doubt USBC is going to confiscate your bowling ball and run tests to determine what polish you used. Yes, it's technically "illegal", but USBC is such a joke and has done so much to destroy bowling that I really don't think anyone cares about their approved list and will just use whatever they want because nobody is ever going to know except them.
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Lately I been using all of the Motiv stuff (cleaner, polish, etc.) seems to work great.
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Personally I use Valentinos Snake Oil about 90% of the time. It is easy to use and very adjustable in its ability to shine the ball as much or as little as you need/want. It also lasts much longer than most polishes.
I also find it better than Secret Sauce because Snake Oil is more adjustable; I find SS to be an on again, off again type of polish, sort of all or nothing. Plus even Beans recommended that you use no finer a grit under the polish than 1000 grit. With Snake Oil, I can use any grit from 360 to 4000 grit. Plus, as with Secret Sauce, where you can just apply water to a pad used with it previously to apply more polish, I can do the same with Snake Oil.
Charlest, you use a ball spinner. Would Snake Oil be as effective if you applied it by hand? I am not totally sold on Black Magic, so I am looking for a better polish. I would apply Snake Oil by hand.
Thanks.
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Have you forgotten, or do you just ignore that Remedy R/X is the only Valentino's product on the USBC approved list? -- JohnP
I know this is an old topic but just wanted to chime in on this comment. All of Valentinos products are USBC approved. Remedy R/X is approved at anytime where Snake Oil, UFO, and Resurrection are approved before/after competition.
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Would Snake Oil be as effective if you applied it by hand?
You would get a more uniform result if used on a spinner. That being said, I'm sure it would be as "effective" if done by hand correctly.
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My statement was true when posted, I do understand that Valentino's products are now all USBC approved. -- JohnP
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Personally I use Valentinos Snake Oil about 90% of the time. It is easy to use and very adjustable in its ability to shine the ball as much or as little as you need/want. It also lasts much longer than most polishes.
I also find it better than Secret Sauce because Snake Oil is more adjustable; I find SS to be an on again, off again type of polish, sort of all or nothing. Plus even Beans recommended that you use no finer a grit under the polish than 1000 grit. With Snake Oil, I can use any grit from 360 to 4000 grit. Plus, as with Secret Sauce, where you can just apply water to a pad used with it previously to apply more polish, I can do the same with Snake Oil.
Charlest, you use a ball spinner. Would Snake Oil be as effective if you applied it by hand? I am not totally sold on Black Magic, so I am looking for a better polish. I would apply Snake Oil by hand.
Thanks.
AS mentioned by Good Times, the spinner allows a more consistent result and a more intense polished finish. I use it by hand when I want a light polish over whatever base grit is chosen. No polish gets as deep or polish nor as high a grit by hand, as it does by spinner.
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Have you forgotten, or do you just ignore that Remedy R/X is the only Valentino's product on the USBC approved list? -- JohnP
I know this is an old topic but just wanted to chime in on this comment. All of Valentinos products are USBC approved. Remedy R/X is approved at anytime where Snake Oil, UFO, and Resurrection are approved before/after competition.
I am going to back JohnP on his later reply about Valentino's polishes not being on the USBC Approved list at the time of his first above quoted statement. When I first read his statement back in Sept 2013, I thought that it was incorrect, but after looking on bowl.com for the approved list and not seeing Valentino's polishes listed, I asked someone about this and the reply was that Valentino was working with USBC to have their polishes added to the approved list so I did not comment on this topic at that time.
JohnP was quite correct at the time.
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Snake Oil, Resurrection, and UFO were approved Dec 2013.
We only sent the products in for approval after we received some requests from our customers. I still hold my stance that the before and after list isn't necessary...but that's my opinion.
We are having a sale on our products for the next week or so
http://www.valentinobowling.com/shoppingcart/categories/Sale-Items/
-Kevin
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I've used the Sauce and Snake many times in the past with and without a spinner.
with a spinner, both are great.
Without the spinner, the snake is much better by hand vs the BS. Easier to apply and to remove.
Both Snake and UFO are the only polishes I use and only need.
(all I use are Valentino liquids)