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LuckyLefty

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PURE reactive!
« on: July 20, 2005, 12:55:34 AM »
MAy have just learned something more!

Called Columbia yesterday to get info on a ball for my son.

Talked to a guy that was very helpful.

Described to me this ball

http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=3&BallID=453

Explained to me there was a light particle load in ball that made it just a touch more oil friendly than the original messenger...Ah Hah!

Go back to the description... where is that.

Another one we talked about was this.

http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=3&BallID=543

He stated..."maybe a touch more particle, this is one of our earliest rolling balls".

I hope these weren't trade secrets BUT, knowing these things can help a lot.

It has been my idea lately that many more balls than we realize have a slight or very light particle load.  For whatever reason ball manufacturers really aren't in to telling or admitting this for marketing purposes.  But it is true.

I have often thought that almost all of the track balls were particle.  The Havoc a glowing example...suppossed to almost be a remake of the Night Hawk with a reactive shell.  boy does that thing move early if not glossed up.

My Hyde seems to be a real pure reactive!  Very long if polished for a solid!

Anyway.  Great info, I think that because of today's very vicsous oils that there are few pure reactives around. And while the trend is away from the heavy particle loads of 5 years ago there are lots of balls with loads in the 2 3 and 4 percent range I feel.

REgards,

Luckylefty

Edited on 7/20/2005 8:50 AM
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qstick777

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Re: PURE reactive!
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2005, 01:14:02 PM »
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It has been my idea lately that many more balls than we realize have a slight or very light particle load. For whatever reason ball manufacturers really aren't in to telling or admitting this for marketing purposes. But it is true.


I bought the AMF Velocity because it WAS (still is) marketed as a particle.  Guys from AMF will readily admit that it is a very, very light load.  From Pat Nolan: "The Velocity has just a small amount of particle (1/4 of 1%)"

I think at that level, it probably isn't even worth mentioning that there is a particle load in the cover at all.  I don't know that much about particles and load levels, but 0.25% doesn't sound like it will make that much of a difference, but, IMBW.
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shelley

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Re: PURE reactive!
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2005, 02:52:16 PM »
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I think at that level, it probably isn't even worth mentioning that there is a particle load in the cover at all.  I don't know that much about particles and load levels, but 0.25% doesn't sound like it will make that much of a difference, but, IMBW.


0.25% may not sound like much, but if 1% is considered a heavy-load, then 0.25% is more than it seems.

What's a typical particle load?  The Phenom is considered a high-load particle ball, what's the percentage there?  Or the Goliath?  Or the ultra-high-load Swamp Monster?  What about a medium-load particle ball like the Flash Flood (?)?  

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Re: PURE reactive!
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2005, 02:57:52 PM »
I don't know any of the laods from todays stuff, but when I was on Storm's pro shop staff in 2001, I was told the La Nina was a 10% load, which was the highest to date...and probably since in my opinion.

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Re: PURE reactive!
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2005, 06:18:42 PM »
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Also, Storms original particles in the La Nina and succesors were generally rumored to by much softer ( rubber or some similar compound )than the fiber glass and ceramic particles being used by other companies.

I was told they used rubber beads.
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tburky

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Re: PURE reactive!
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2005, 06:20:16 PM »
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I don't know any of the laods from todays stuff, but when I was on Storm's pro shop staff in 2001, I was told the La Nina was a 10% load, which was the highest to date...and probably since in my opinion.




This ball was the only particle ball made that had this high of a load. In fact this ball was grandfathered because the particle loading was reduced by the abc.
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